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D B Sweeney
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A partial quote in return bitterbuck1 
"You can put scientific reasoning to everything in life I believe, but that does not give us an absolute answer to any of these questions." BITTERBUCK1
Correct bitter but scientific methodology is by far the best process we have for examining and providing the most useful validation to establish the nature and processes at work in the world around us. Science, even when it fails, succeeds far better than any other endeavour. Science is simply a way of examining the world - a very effective method of analysis and investigation.
In short, science is the best tool in the toolbox we have but science acknowledges that anything is possible. It's possible that (despite a lack of valid evidence) ghosts, psychics, lake monsters and UFO's exist. Since no one is omniscient, no one has all the answers and therefore absolute certainty is not a criterion, especially in matters of fact and science.
Ultimately the question is not what is possible, but instead what the evidence shows and what is reasonable.
I'm currently writing an article (for another forum) on The Croydon Poltergeist -a little known case that occurred in Croydon South London in the late 70's/early 80's. It features much typical poltergeist phenomena that (if the eyewitness accounts are to be believed) defy science. These in my opinion remain unexplained but not as yet unexplainable. Confusing the two is a common error in paranormal circles.
http://skepticwiki.org/index.php/Argument_from_Incredulity
Sources: Scientific Paranormal Investigation by Benjamin Radford.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
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bitterbuck1
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Correct bitter but scientific methodology is by far the best process we have for examining and providing the most useful validation to establish the nature and processes at work in the world around us. Science, even when it fails, succeeds far better than any other endeavour. Science is simply a way of examining the world - a very effective method of analysis and investigation.
In short, science is the best tool in the toolbox we have but science acknowledges that anything is possible. It's possible that (despite a lack of valid evidence) ghosts, psychics, lake monsters and UFO's exist. Since no one is omniscient, no one has all the answers and therefore absolute certainty is not a criterion, especially in matters of fact and science.
Ultimately the question is not what is possible, but instead what the evidence shows and what is reasonable.
I'm currently writing an article (for another forum) on The Croydon Poltergeist -a little known case that occurred in Croydon South London in the late 70's/early 80's. It features much typical poltergeist phenomena that (if the eyewitness accounts are to be believed) defy science. These in my opinion remain unexplained but not as yet unexplainable. Confusing the two is a common error in paranormal circles.
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DB, I do agree with you on the scientific explanations of most paranormal experiences.
But there are the occurrences of unexplained phenomenal that, to this date, have not been resolved by sciencetific analysis.
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D B Sweeney
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Thanks for the quick reply bitter 
I do also agree with you, nearly all paranormal experiences from sightings of Lake monsters to UFO's and ghosts can be explained by relatively simple scientific investigation. But not all cases, and I'd say the bulk of anecdotal ghost sightings get properly investigated by a non biased investigator who uses the correct scientific methodology. Just because a 'ghosthunter' uses an EMF meter it doesn't make him (or her) a scientist or make the investigation 'scientific' anymore than me owning and using a torque wrench on my car makes me a Mechanic.
Some paranormal experiences are unexplained (because they have not been investigated properly) but are not unexplainable and despite my obvious scepticism in my posts I do genuinely believe that a small minority of cases (if they are reported accurately) do seem to defy any rational scientific explanation.
My stance is one of scepticism not cynicism.
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Geez, sorry about that last post DB. 
Apparently the rest of my post did not print!
Can't say what I did to make that happen.
Those last few sentences didn't make a darn bit of sense did they?
You'd think I had one to many drinks.
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D B Sweeney
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Don't worry bitter, I never even noticed
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