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mrx3010



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:57 pm    Post subject: Electrostatic Detector Array Reply with quote

Electrostatic field detection is one way that researchers are trying to track potential "ghosts". I could buy a detector for around $60 US but I don't have the small fortune it would take to build the eventual system that we need to conduct field experiments so I did what I always do, I built one from scratch :)

I have been wanting to build this for a long time, finally I got around to it. I built 3 of these devices so far. My plan is to build a dozen or so to canvas an area. In theory it should give us the ability to track a moving electrostatic field in real time.

How it works, the LEDs will stay lit until a negative electrostatic charge moves near a detector at this time the LED will dim down or go out entirely as a negative static field approaches the device. If the field is positive the LED will brighten. The LEDs will return to normal brightness or (zero), when the field around them normalizes back to where it was or you can manually zero them.

In the video my cat provides the transient field for the test of the array. You can see how valuable this may prove to be. For those wanting to stay up to date with our findings on this, we are publishing updates on the GWRIP facebook page.

enyoy,
Ron

http://www.ronedmedia.com/GhostWatch/images/Staticfieldtest.wmv
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So in your experience, are ghost transmitting Neg or Pos charges or both?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is that most natural ground based objects are negatively charged and the upper ionosphere is positively charged, this is also why we have lighting. So almost any readings we get on our static detectors, (TFM-3) is the only one we have used in the field up till now that shows polarity, we were reading negatives. If this device works we will be able to not only track a moving field but also to note if it changes and what polarity it is. One such device will result in nothing more than stray hits here and there, but if we detect something using a dozen of these things in a controlled array it should give us some good data. If we were to use enough of them, it would also show us the actual shape of the field distortion or possible entity, this is why I am excited about this, it could potentially let us see in near real time something that our eyes can not see.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be sure to take detailed notes for proof of your hypothesis
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I plan on turning it over to one of our members for an official controlled experiment once I get the final design worked out. Ill keep everyone updated on it.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conducted further tests, with a relative humidity of 50% the array was active enough to detect movement of the cats again. It was also able to detect movement of me walking by. It registered a hair brush at 4-5 feet above the antennae. Field strength is dependent upon RH, the length of the antennae wire and it's orientation to the unit. I also experimented with both red and blue LED indicators and how they showed up on IR. Visually the Blue is brighter but for IR the red of course wins out. I am now building the final 3 for a total of six to field test.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like my kind of experiment.. dang, wish I was there working with you on this one :)
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project-reveal



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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a great idea man,

we at project-reveal have some idea's our self i will share with you all on another post :) useing electro static.

I think you have stumbled onto spirit motion *if there is spirits*


I have looked up the idea, and the tools i need to make one my self, i will do so and post my findings here for you all to see. I thank you for sharing such a great idea.... thats amazing.
WOW :)

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project-reveal



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey i sent you a PM

on my version i only got 6cm away from the antena. with a E field. compared to your 4 - 5 meters

Im not sure why?

I sent you a pm of my actions and tools.

if you could help cheers.
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Iain Lawrence



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well all this is well and good amd Im sure you are going into this experiment with all best intentions. But as you will have noticed, you are useing physical living objects with which to conduct such an experiment. It is documented through quantum physics that a electromagnetic field that is not contained within a physical state can not control its own equilibrium. The forces of the paranormal fluctuate from + to - at different rates and this could cause your documented readings to go a miss. You see this is why when investigators pick up on what apears to be EMF fluctuations away from the norm, the electromagnetic current will appear and then disappear. It is drifting in and out of the Tri-field meters range. To produce a piece of equipment which could read a varying electromagnetic charge over a substancial area and between said points would maybe be more usefull. Lazer technology maybe the way ahead. To place a group of heat,light,electromagnetic and electro sensitive lazers in an area and to input this data into some form of computer analysis program could give the desired results. Then you will have domumented results of movement from many frequencys. Has an apparant anomily pass's across an area it will fluctuate through many spectrums. This way you'd have all your bases covered. Hope this was of help and good look. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The forces of the paranormal fluctuate from + to - at different rates - Iain Lawrence

You know how paranormal forces work?

DB
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mrx3010



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm curious as well?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, No not actual the entity itself. I refer to the forces with which paranormal anomilys apply and interact within and upon the physical world. It is " as you may know" documented through quantum fact, that all and everything within our known universe is at its basic elements a mass of positive and negative forces useing electromagnetics as the glue with which everything is held within the atomic and ( sub-atomic) world. So considering all elements are a build up of atoms in one construction or another ( depending on the structure and amount of electrons, protos and neutrons) and that anomilys apparantly use the basic elemental building blocks as a way in which to manifest, then yes paranormal entitys would infact at an atomic and sub-atomic level be produced from + and - while manifesting within the physical world. This includes physical matter, light and all the constituents of the elemental chart. Did this answer your question ? There are current theorys about the actual life force being made up of some form of dark matter or energy which utilises electromagnetic energy as a sort of transitional energy with which to pass from the atomic to the sub-atomic and viser versa. But as yet all theory.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iain Lawrence wrote:
Lol, No not actual the entity itself. I refer to the forces with which paranormal anomilys apply and interact within and upon the physical world. It is " as you may know" documented through quantum fact, that all and everything within our known universe is at its basic elements a mass of positive and negative forces useing electromagnetics as the glue with which everything is held within the atomic and ( sub-atomic) world. So considering all elements are a build up of atoms in one construction or another ( depending on the structure and amount of electrons, protos and neutrons) and that anomilys apparantly use the basic elemental building blocks as a way in which to manifest, then yes paranormal entitys would infact at an atomic and sub-atomic level be produced from + and - while manifesting within the physical world. This includes physical matter, light and all the constituents of the elemental chart. Did this answer your question ? There are current theorys about the actual life force being made up of some form of dark matter or energy which utilises electromagnetic energy as a sort of transitional energy with which to pass from the atomic to the sub-atomic and viser versa. But as yet all theory.


There is no such thing as Quantum fact - it is all highly theoretical as is dark matter. Of course, we can speculate but there are no hard facts when it comes to trying to explain the workings of the universe at the quantum level.
We haven't even established that ghosts are anything other than subjective experiences and the misperception of natural phenomena by the human brain yet and we certainly have a long way to go before mainstream science accepts the concept of life after death.

Where does a ghost get its energy to appear, to move objects etc.
How can an invisible entity speak if it doesn't have physical vocal chords?

Why do some people see ghosts in a haunted location and others see or feel nothing?

DB
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Iain Lawrence



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just write quantum facts into google, thats easy enough. Its all speculation, but a ghost is able to use electomagnetic energy along with negative ions in able to send charges out and insome way manipulte its enviroment as a way to interacting with its environment. An entity speaks through electromagnetics by sending a direct input to the relevet part either of the ear or the brain. Before you ask how people get evp, its because the anomily co operates directly with the magnet in the microphone and not with the front of the mic. Some see a ghost and others not due to the brain frequencys needing to be at the right level at the right time . Relaxed frequencys seem to be best about 45 htz or 50. thisis the same as a child or someone is ill. you need to read more lol..
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