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D B Sweeney
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| Iain Lawrence wrote: | | Well you see, as far as where we come from is concerned. please please put me in toutch with a psychologist who can confirm the none excistance of life before birth and one who can explain to me at what point the human physical form suddenly aquires it's self as a living being..that would be pretty impressive to say the least and as far as education is conserned, I have been studying sciences since I was about 12 and have a back ground of very grate indepth study of the paranormal. Plus you don't need to explain the psychology to me either considering I have a diploma in applied psychology and also a diploma in parapsychology. I also study Quantum physica and quantum mechanics at a local university as well as now studying for a higher degree on parapsychology on line. I conduct my own investigations and have produced several papers for reading by the scientific comunity as well as being in the middle of writing a book covering theorys and my own outlook on parapychology. Finaly there you go again, asking me for evedence of statements ? Go and find them ! I had too. |
I'm impressed. Unfortunately I can't refer you to any psychologist who will confirm the non existence of life before birth because it's just plain stupid and not something any rational person would waste their time trying to answer - surely you must have realised that?.
Iain, I've now wasted enough of my time trying to explain how cognitive human psychology answers the anomalies you attribute to the paranormal. I've done this over several threads on here but you just come back with non specific waffle that chucks in a few scientific sounding words in the hope that they will make your replies sound almost credible.
Where are you studying Quantum Physics Iain and where did you get your Diploma in Applied Psychology? If you can also point me in the direction of your published scientific papers so that both I and my colleagues in the academic community can look at them I'd be very grateful.
Thanks.
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Inn Spectre
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Iain Lawrence wrote: | | ...I have a diploma in applied psychology and also a diploma in parapsychology. I also study Quantum physica and quantum mechanics at a local university as well as now studying for a higher degree on parapsychology on line. I conduct my own investigations and have produced several papers for reading by the scientific comunity as well as being in the middle of writing a book covering theorys and my own outlook on parapychology. |
All I can say is that you're the most illiterate graduate I've ever encountered, so unless that's par for the course these days, no editor is ever going to take you seriously.
Consequently unless you're printing-off your own articles and handing them out in the streets, the only place anything of yours will ever be published is on your own webspace.
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Iain Lawrence
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| lol. I actualy suffer from dyslexia and its been diagnosed and Im sorry for that, so thankyou for pointing that out I feel so much better now. |
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Inn Spectre
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| Quote: | | I disagree that this is the case. Ghosts and hauntings don't stay secrets for long. |
Since you can't grasp the concept that initial experience must precede any reputation we'll have to move on. | Quote: | | If you can cite some cases where this happens and show how the individuals concerned were not aware of the phenomena but all experienced the same thing I'd Like to examine the evidence. |
The type of case perhaps least attributable to pre-existing reputation is what we call road ghosts, where the locations are unknown to the witnesses, whose current location may not even be known to them.
Here are a couple of re-constructed examples. The first is interesting in that we hear from self-proclaimed experts who fail to meet an essential requirement of any scientist, namely to admit that we still know relatively nothing about our environment.
The second is notable because it recounts a group sighting in a location strange to all the witnesses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoW6GKYSDCs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=676zEjngV08#t=03m35s
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D B Sweeney
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Inn Spectre wrote: | | Quote: | | I disagree that this is the case. Ghosts and hauntings don't stay secrets for long. |
Since you can't grasp the concept that initial experience must precede any reputation we'll have to move on. | Quote: | | If you can cite some cases where this happens and show how the individuals concerned were not aware of the phenomena but all experienced the same thing I'd Like to examine the evidence. |
The type of case perhaps least attributable to pre-existing reputation is what we call road ghosts, where the locations are unknown to the witnesses, whose current location may not even be known to them.
Here are a couple of re-constructed examples. The first is interesting in that we hear from self-proclaimed experts who fail to meet an essential requirement of any scientist, namely to admit that we still know relatively nothing about our environment.
The second is notable because it recounts a group sighting in a location strange to all the witnesses.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoW6GKYSDCs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=676zEjngV08#t=03m35s
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I grasp the concept perfectly well. Of course an experience must precede a reputation - hence my comment that ghosts and haunting experiences quite quickly spread and subsequently a reputation is acquired.
As for the others - thanks for the links Inn Spectre 
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| Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:50 am Post subject: |
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those storys are pretty scary  to think youve knocked someone over then find out it was a ghost brrrr lol |
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| D B Sweeney wrote: | Did you see her as you were falling asleep or just waking since you say you shot under the blankets when you realised she was a ghost?
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we had all gone to bed at the same time, i had got a phone call off my partner at the time and was on the phone for at least an hour, so i was wide awake
it was when i finnished the call when i saw it |
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D B Sweeney
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Inn Spectre - I don't accept any YouTube videos as evidence of anything other than being YouTube videos. You may as well post a link to the Beano mate.
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Inn Spectre
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| D B Sweeney wrote: | | Inn Spectre - I don't accept any YouTube videos as evidence of anything other than being YouTube videos. You may as well post a link to the Beano mate. |
Strange you took so long to say that, however those videos were cited because they recount via the testimony of individuals, a type of haunting that fitted the criterion that you specified and would presumably regard as more credible. Such testimony has to be classed as evidence no matter what credence you may choose to give it. |
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D B Sweeney
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| Inn Spectre wrote: | | D B Sweeney wrote: | | Inn Spectre - I don't accept any YouTube videos as evidence of anything other than being YouTube videos. You may as well post a link to the Beano mate. |
Strange you took so long to say that, however those videos were cited because they recount via the testimony of individuals, a type of haunting that fitted the criterion that you specified and would presumably regard as more credible. Such testimony has to be classed as evidence no matter what credence you may choose to give it. |
Strange indeed  . With respect, I class YouTube videos (where half credible) as anecdotal evidence nothing more. They may prompt research or further field based investigation but as valid evidence they're pretty much non admissible.
For example, if I posted a YouTube video stating that I saw a dragon fly across the sky would that be credible evidence of dragons?.
I appreciate that you class multiple testimonies as evidence of ghosts but there are numerous factors that have a bearing on those testimonies and on how credible they are.
Thanks for the prompt reply though.
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