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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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I have a lot of respect for Jaime Maussan but he's not a scientist or an expert in radiation.
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thecactus
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Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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in this video he is not one of those scientifically investigating the incident, hes just spreading the word about it, and his beliefs it was real, after hearing the boys involved etc... |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Do you honestly believe that this is a genuine alien attempting an abduction?. IMO it's laughable - for reasons I've already stated and the sheer implausibility of it.
It's poor even by YouTubes standards
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thecactus
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:49 am Post subject: |
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Do you honestly believe that this is a genuine alien attempting an abduction?. IMO it's laughable - for reasons I've already stated and the sheer implausibility of it.
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I never said 'i honestly believe that this is a genuine alien attempting an abduction?' I am just considering the possibility
sheer implausibility of it. - that can be argued about anything and comments like that are unhelpful
I actually do lean towards this being fake, but believe there is still a chance its not, and if its not... |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:15 am Post subject: |
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sheer implausibility of it. - that can be argued about anything and comments like that are unhelpful
OK, argue against the sheer implausibility of the theory of gravity or evolution. Calling people 'morons' and saying they have 'meagre experience' is unhelpful.
I actually do lean towards this being fake, but believe there is still a chance its not, and if its not...
Of course there's a chance it's real and not fake. There's also a chance that man didn't really land on the moon and that Elvis isn't dead.
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thecactus
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:26 am Post subject: |
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yes there is a chance that government pretended to go to the moon because of massive expenditure etc...but i believe they did
there is a chance elvis faked his death with his over $400million fortune to escape the neverending bombardment of attention etc...but i believe he just died...on his throne
there are sientists who who question the plausibility of certain aspects of evolutionary theories and others aspects of gravity |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:29 am Post subject: |
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there are sientists who who question the plausibility of certain aspects of evolutionary theories and others aspects of gravity
Any links? Surely you're not referring to I.D.?. Better still, try jumping off a very high building and see which aspects of the theory of gravity that you and these scientists question spring to mind - but you'll probably need to be quick
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thecactus
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:40 am Post subject: |
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any 'theories' plausibility can be argued - only the 'laws' of physics are fully proven
did you do your GCSEs? |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:57 am Post subject: |
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thecactus wrote: | any 'theories' plausibility can be argued - only the 'laws' of physics are fully proven
did you do your GCSEs? |
The way to overcome the problem of lacking absolute certainty is to assign probabilities to issues. Do invisible pink unicorns (IPUs) exist? Well, we can't prove they don't (it's impossible to prove an intangible negative), but there's no evidence at all that they do (they're a construct of human imagination), so should we take it as a 50:50 issue?
So while we can't be 100% certain that they don't exist, I'd put the probability of them actually existing about as close to zero as makes no practical difference.
NB: Read the first line of the link below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
A scientific theory comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws)
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thecactus
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:00 am Post subject: |
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So while we can't be 100% certain that they don't exist, I'd put the probability of them actually existing about as close to zero as makes no practical difference.
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despite you already claiming you believe there is other intelligent life in the universe and you witnessed a UFO |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:16 am Post subject: |
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despite you already claiming you believe there is other intelligent life in the universe and you witnessed a UFO
I was referring to the hypothetical IPU's.
The argument and evidence for life in the universe is backed by mainstream science.
Re: my UFO sighting, I suggest you re-read it.
UFO = Unidentified Flying Object. 'Unidentified' does not mean it's an alien spacecraft.
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thecactus
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:25 am Post subject: |
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UFO = Unidentified Flying Object. 'Unidentified' does not mean it's an alien spacecraft.
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yeah i think i read that somewhere
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The argument and evidence for life in the universe is backed by mainstream science.
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yes i know
most scientists avoid the subect for fear of ridicule |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:33 am Post subject: |
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most scientists avoid the subect for fear of ridicule
How do you know for sureif they're keeping quiet?. Many scientists study alien life they're called Astrobiologists. The reason why many scientists probably don't
study or research the UFO/alien phenomenon is because it's so riddled with human error and - more importantly - there's no real evidence to study, no experiments to set up and test and any hypotheses are very easily discredited and proven wrong.
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thecactus
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:36 am Post subject: |
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no really, it is just a taboo subject for scientists - they avoid it for fear of ridicule and fear it will not help their career
some lookinto it in their private lives and let nobody know |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:44 am Post subject: |
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I agree that some scientists probably have an active interest in UFO's/aliens outside of their academic/professional career. A good many scientists also believe in god and that jesus was his son, however they rely on faith for this since there's no evidence (other than a book of stories) to support this belief.
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