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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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thecactus wrote: | D B Sweeney,
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Thousands of people 'saw' a miracle at Fatima in Portugal.
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and maybe they did - who are you to say otherwise? |
I'm to say that they were delusional. I have the support of scientific investigation.
What have you got Cactus?.
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thecactus
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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well I have talked to a lot of people who have been to visit fatima at different times and they all claimed they felt something spiritual - they claimed there is definately something about that place - I will go myself sometime but for now I am still unsure about my religion |
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bitterbuck1 Moderator
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 3963 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:38 am Post subject: |
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flossy wrote: | oh bitter that could only happen to you |
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bitterbuck1 Moderator
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 3963 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:42 am Post subject: |
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thecactus wrote: | I will go myself sometime but for now I am still unsure about my religion |
Maybe this would be the best time to go. |
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Agentscott
Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 1042 Location: Essex
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Hi there all,
Tonite I was thinking post my second sighting and so I decided to take a look on the web to see if I could find some footage of a simular sighting to back mine up. I was browsing through my favorite legit UFO site when I saw some imformation on the Pheonix lights so thought i'd take a quick look...
Now it seems that the Pheonix lights sightings are not just simular to my third sighting(the rows of blinking lights) but also my second. I read that a V-shaped formation yellowish in colour, was also seen at Pheonix and that was exactly the footage I was looking for like my second sighting.
If they were realy on some kind of military maneuver then the states military get around alot and operate here in the UK right here in Colchester.
The more I read about the Pheonix lights the more totaly alien it gets.
Here is a link to the article..
http://www.richplanet.net/detail.php?dbindex=10
I will also be posting a full report on my second sighting pretty soon. |
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bitterbuck1 Moderator
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 3963 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:40 am Post subject: |
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I don't know, the more I read it reeks military.
Quote: | V-shaped object above Henderson, Nevada. He said it was about the ''size of a (Boeing) 747'', sounded like ''rushing wind'
The lights formed a triangular pattern |
This describes a stealth.
The military has so many different air craft you can't take
this out of the equation. |
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Agentscott
Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 1042 Location: Essex
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Not that bit Bitter...
'While doing astrophotography I observed five yellow-white lights in a ''V'' formation moving slowly from the northwest, across the sky to the northeast, then turn almost due south and continue until out of sight. The point of the ''V'' was in the direction of movement. The first three lights were in a fairly tight ''V'' while two of the lights were further back along the lines of the ''V'''s legs. During the NW-NE transit one of the trailing lights moved up and joined the three and then dropped back to the trailing position. I estimated the three light ''V'' to cover about 0.5 degrees of sky and the whole group of five lights to cover about 1 degree of sky.'
This can't be a stealth because the lights move around. |
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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 11:47 am Post subject: |
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thecactus wrote: | well I have talked to a lot of people who have been to visit fatima at different times and they all claimed they felt something spiritual - they claimed there is definately something about that place - I will go myself sometime but for now I am still unsure about my religion |
The original 'miracle' happened in 1917 Cactus. The people you know must be mopping up the residue
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thecactus
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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I know the miracle happened in 1917 - it still draws thousands of pilgrims every year who claim it is a holy area. |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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thecactus wrote: | I know the miracle happened in 1917 - it still draws thousands of pilgrims every year who claim it is a holy area. |
and many many people claim that everything in the annals of Scientology is real too. Claims without evidence are veridically worthless.
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thecactus
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 1:07 am Post subject: |
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you stereotype too much - most of scientology is complete rubbish, i mean it was created by a sci-fi writer
but many claim their practice of auditing is very benificial - so it cant be all bad
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Claims without evidence are veridically worthless.
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i guess thats were you are going wrong - the people who witnessed the miracle fatima didnt feel the need to prove to anybody - they just told their story |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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i guess thats were you are going wrong - the people who witnessed the miracle fatima didnt feel the need to prove to anybody - they just told their story
Have you considered that they were mistaken in what they saw?. They told their story after the event. They were involved in a mass delusion - peasant people very easily led by the Catholic Church.
Get it?.
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thecactus
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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have you considered that maybe you are mistaken? no definately not |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:20 am Post subject: |
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thecactus wrote: | have you considered that maybe you are mistaken? no definately not |
What's more likely:
A) The people at Fatima witnessed the sun falling out of the sky (as reported).
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B) They were deluded on mass by a combination of hysterical contagion and ignorant religious belief?.
Go figure
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:30 am Post subject: |
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thecactus wrote: | D B Sweeney,
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Thousands of people 'saw' a miracle at Fatima in Portugal.
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and maybe they did - who are you to say otherwise? |
Because we know what happened Cactus - we know the FACTS.
This will help clear things up.
http://www.miraclesceptic.com/solarmiracle.html
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