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thecactus



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:47 pm    Post subject: OBE Reply with quote

An out-of-body experience (OBE or sometimes OOBE) is an experience that typically involves a sensation of floating outside of one's body and, in some cases, perceiving one's physical body from a place outside one's body (autoscopy).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6zHbeMhuRA

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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.skepdic.com/obe.html

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mrx3010



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do you know about OBEs cactus, I mean really know not what you read somewhere?
This one I could write a book on, actually I did just never published it.
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i didnt realise this was a knowledge contest - no ive never head an obe that im aware of -

a week or 2 ago i had a dream - i was jumping say about 10ft off the ground, then it hit me - im dreaming - even though i realised i was dreaming the dream continued - i then jumped into like a light all around me - pulled me up like a strong tug upwards and i thought i was leaving my body but then suddenly the fear of the unknown kicked in - and even though im not religious for whatever reason i said something like 'God Jesus stop this from happening' then i woke up
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that sound like a UFO abduction dream!
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mrx3010



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you hear anything?
Feel anything before after or during?
What did your surrounding look like?
How did you feel after?

No contest, just seeing if you have had any actual experiences.
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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mrx3010, Did you hear anything?
Feel anything before after or during?
What did your surrounding look like?
How did you feel after?

No contest, just seeing if you have had any actual experiences.

to be honest it was just a lucid dream (i believe nothing supernatural) until that point that i jumped and it was like something give me a quick strong pull upwards into bright white light all round

its very hazey - i cant remember what i heard - i cant really answer any of the 4 questions because it is very hazey now

i remember at the time i was going toward the light - first i was curious but quickly become afraid, basically of the unknown
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im just curious now - you seem to have done a lot of research into obe's - do you believe this is real/possible?
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
im just curious now - you seem to have done a lot of research into obe's - do you believe this is real/possible?


Bet you thought I was the only sceptic on here Wink

mrx is out there in the field actively investigating. He has a lot of experience and I have a lot of respect for this guy and his group. We've had our disagreements in the past but that's just healthy debate.

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mrx3010



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I began my research in OBEs over 25 years ago. I heard of the phenomena and thought it was all just nonsense. Nothing more than seizures or dreams. However I soon realized there was something far more going on with it. I could always induce deep states of relaxation, I used a cheap bio-feedback monitor to help me achieve these states. I resolved to investigate the phenomena first hand but every time I would induce the relaxed state I would fall asleep and the experiment would soon end. I needed a way to maintain consciousness if I was going to get this to work. I created a set of protocols which I employed to keep myself conscious as I drifted further down the rabbit hole. One night shortly after entering the state of desired consciousness I began to feel a vibration and hear a high pitched whine. This vibration would increase as I focused more on it,eventually the vibrations literally shook my body apart. I awoke on the ceiling and everything in the room was bathed in a crisp golden light. I pressed through the ceiling and found myself outside. The colors were unreal I can not describe them as anything you would know.
At the time I had a very good friend and I thought to myself I think I will pop in to see her. With this thought I was whisked away at amazing speed and found myself outside a doorway in a dark hall. I tried to open the door but my hand passed through it and I followed by walking inside. I was in a bedroom everything was lit by the golden light. I began to take note of the things I saw, a desk by a window, a red duffle bag, stone. I realized I must be in her room at this thought I shot back through a sort of tunnel at a speed I can not describe and slammed back into my physical body with incredible force. I shot up and grabbed a notebook and began to record all I saw and felt.
Several days later my friend invited me over to help her with some homework. I entered her room and there in the floor a large red duffle bag, near the window a small desk and one side of the wall was stone. I could not really believe it. After this first experience and the validation I received I concluded there was indeed something to all of this. I do not believe it is super natural, mystic, or occultic in any way or form. Since that night I have had many experiences and have written a lot of material on the subject, I even managed to create a protocol and succeeded in teaching several individuals how to induce an obe.
I can not tell you what it is but i can tell you that it is possible to induce these experiences at least in myself and the subjects I tested it on, with various frequencies.
So unlike aliens, ghosts and bigfoot, I can speak with more certainty to the validity and posible reality of this phenomena.
OBEs also make other phenomena a bit more explainable, I often wondered what would my friend have seen that night if she would have been awake? Would she have seen a projection of me? Or would she have seen a ghost and really whats the difference Wink

Cactus based on what you said, I am certain you did not have an OBE. These phenomena are not like dreams. It's been over 25 years and I can still recall nearly every detail of that event and all of the ones that followed. This is something you must experience to believe IMO.
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

no i dont think it was one i had either

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The colors were unreal I can not describe them as anything you would know.

your right there because im mild colourblind Wink


Are you able to induce an obe now whenever you want?
How many have you had?
Do you believe that it was your soul/spirit that left your body? or what/if any conclusions have you come to?


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OBEs also make other phenomena a bit more explainable, I often wondered what would my friend have seen that night if she would have been awake? Would she have seen a projection of me? Or would she have seen a ghost and really whats the difference

maybe this is what happened in the Enfield incident when janice went through into neighbours?

also bob lazar story and many others who claim to have had contact with greys - claim body is only container for the soul - your story and theirs can relate?
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps you freind would have seen you as an orb.
This sounds very interesting. I have heard that every human on Earth has a this potental to do this but modernday life has neutralised the knolage and ability amongst the masses. Remote veiwing was experimented top secretly within the military.

I don't know a great deal about all this stuff but it has to do with your 7 shakra points and spiritual potental. In other more connected spiritualy countries the residents talk openly of this thing in public but here if you did that on the tube you would get some very dodgy looks!

Going a bit alien here with it, the Greys are suppost to be very interested in us because of our souls ability to do things like this. (they want one)


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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The M*D have declassified some documents on remote veiwing.
They are on the nation*l archiv* website.

Most of it is blotted out though.
Also I notice that some files are actually being sold.
Freedom of imformation, if you pay for it!
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mrx3010



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remote viewing is something different, I have had success with it as well, I will not go into too much detail as it would take pages to relate the accounts. As for aliens being interested in our souls I do believe that is a product of Hollywood and deep speculation, however I will say this of the experiences I had I did eventually come to meet beings which would fit the profile of aliens, or angels or demons if you are greatly negative I suppose. My experiences were indeed induced and I could go out nearly nightly but I began to realize I was not alone while I was out. I was shadowed by a presence and one night I eventually got he foolish nerve to ask it to reveal itself and what it knew to me. What followed is an experience which shaped my life and put me on the path that has lead me here. In short I am essentially not permitted to "go out" anymore at least not beyond the confines of the room I am in and it is probably best that way.
As for your question of "What goes out?" This was a chapter in one of my papers I did a long time ago. In all that time I can honestly tell you, I have no idea. Is it our soul? What is a soul? It can't be something we can't define can it? These are hard paradoxical questions at times and there is as of now no way to answer them. What goes out? Does anything go out at all? Or is it just a form of translocation on a purely psychic level? Questions lead to possible answers which lead to more questions. That my friend is why I don't really research to much anymore and just stick to ghosts, well that and the whole story sounds crazy :)
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will have to look up remote viewing - i have never heard of this before.

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Agentscott, I have heard that every human on Earth has a this potental to do this but modernday life has neutralised the knolage and ability amongst the masses.

I have heard similar things relating to the ability to see ghosts - eg: many believe young children can see spirits - If you have the DVD of the film Sixth Sense - there is a documentary on it which goes into this belief
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