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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
me neither its either hoax or real - and I lean 85% chance real


When it comes to the paranormal I think people believe what they're seeing is 'real'. What 'real' is - is highly subjective. In this case 'real' could be a yacht or some other man made object, 'real' as in an alien spacecraft or 'real' as in some atmospheric anomaly.

What we have to ask ourselves is - based on what we know, what science tells us, what is the likelyhood of it actually being a craft from another planet flown by aliens?.

DB
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well if there are aliens out there then there is a chance this is one species of them and I think there is a chance :

The foremost evolutionary biologist, Prof. Richard Dawkins, makes some comments on the likelihood of life evolving on alien planets:

“It has been estimated that there are between 1 billion and 30 billion planets in our galaxy, and about 100 billion galaxies in the universe. Knocking a few noughts off for reasons of ordinary prudence, a billion billion is a conservative estimate of the number of available planets in the universe. Now, suppose the origin of life, the spontaneous arising of something equivalent to DNA, really was a staggeringly improbable event. Suppose it was so improbable as to occur on only one in a billion planets. Even with such absurdly looking odds, life will still have arisen on a billion planets - of which Earth, of course, is one.”
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree fully with Dawkins - it's nothing new but it's not an endorsement of UFO's and space aliens visiting Earth. You have to really understand the true distances involved in order to appreciate why we've probably not yet been visited by any other intelligent life.

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thecactus



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do understand the distances involved - the most obvious theory being that if antigravity propulsion is possible - which theoretically it is - time and space can be bent and distorted and any distance can be achieved in a relatively short period of time - plus zeta reticuli where the grey beings supposedly originate is relatively close.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antigravity is one thing - faster than light is another Cactus. Zeta Reticuli??? you've been reading too much internet garbage mate.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zeta reticuli is a real star system and not gabage, the greys are possibility too.

Zeta Reticuli (ζ Ret, ζ Reticuli) is a binary star system located about 39 light-years (12 pc) away from Earth. It is located in the constellation Reticulum, and is visible to the unaided eye in very dark skies. Because of the southerly location of the system, it is not visible north of the tropics
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are the Greys so real a possibility AgentScott?. Has Zeta Reticuli orbiting planets with worlds like our Solar System or are you saying this because UFO authors quote Zeta Reticuli a lot despite the fact that they're talking garbage?.

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thecactus



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott, well said agentscott - I though DB would have knew that - it was first mentioned by betty hill when she claims she was abducted and the grey showed her a map to show her where they come from - she was abe to roughly draw what she saw - and a few years later a woman was able to identify from her drawing the Zeta Reticuli star system

D B Sweeney, if antigravity propulsion is possible - it is possible to travel far beyond the speed of light
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never buy into to much stotys like that bacause we can't be sure, I always read alien homeworld info with a pinch of salt and yes sometimes it reminds me of StarTrek. That sort of reading is just for fun.

Zeta reticuli is a real place and therefore may have life.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
Agentscott, well said agentscott - I though DB would have knew that - it was first mentioned by betty hill when she claims she was abducted and the grey showed her a map to show her where they come from - she was abe to roughly draw what she saw - and a few years later a woman was able to identify from her drawing the Zeta Reticuli star system

D B Sweeney, if antigravity propulsion is possible - it is possible to travel far beyond the speed of light


So...you believe Betty Hill?.

Why?.

DB
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zeta reticuli is a real place and therefore may have life.

The Sun is a real place and therefore may have life.

What's the difference in those two statements AgentScott?.

DB
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't say I would believe every word betty hill muttered - but this element of the story for me seemed fairly solid. Some people no matter what the subject - even something 'out of this world' - they cant help but add to the story or amplify/exaggerate pieces - maybe betty hill was like this, but maybe some things she said were in fact real.

It's like the boy who cried wolf.
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D B Sweeney wrote:
Dr. Leir is a specialist in the treatment of the foot, ankle and lower leg not an astro biologist, physicist, astro biologist, aeronautical engineer or any other person qualified to comment with authority on space alien technology.

Would you let a car mechanic remove a blood clot on your brain Cactus?. Or more specifically would you allow Dr. Leir to remove a blood clot on your brain?.

I think his interest in the subject is admirable but his methodology and his claims are questionable IMO. I gather from his involvement in 'Earths original sin' and his connection to the Vatican he also believes in God Rolling Eyes

DB



Well Stanton Friedman is a Nuclear Physicist, so I guess he is ''qualified to comment with authority on space alien technology'' and he is convinced we have been and still are being visited by ET UFOs.
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also consider reading this:

http://www.stantonfriedman.com/index.php?ptp=articles&fdt=2006.11.10
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did this thread end up about witness testimony, the IRA, then Betty Hill Laughing

DB thinks this was a hoax - I'm assuming CGI?

The footage was tested, and I believe this footage is possibly the best proof there is. The source is a Surgeon - highly credible and reliable.

DB can you not just weigh things up? - Do you always need 100% cast iron solid proof?
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