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Iain Lawrence
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:16 am Post subject: ............................. |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:19 am Post subject: |
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Wow Iain, that's possibly one of the longest posts I've ever seen . Give me a few days.
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thecactus
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Could you not go into detail Iain?
I too will read through it later. |
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Agentscott
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:31 am Post subject: |
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wow. |
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Iain Lawrence
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:16 am Post subject: |
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Oh ye, mmm soz. Just wanted to cover mi bases. If you get time take a look. There will most likely be bits you may disagree with, but its the way I see things concerning the scientific/psychical aspect of things. I have applied these oppinions to my investigations and it all comes in handy for filling in the gaps ( we don't have all the jigsaw pieces yet) during analysis and conclusive end of investigation compulation of evidence. But don't forget I don't attempt to teach all this during events as a lot of it can not be varified, its a self produced over look at the over all subject but only considers such things as Quantum, dark energy, dark matter, electrical and electromagnetics etc. I missed out the subject of + and - ions and the use of sensor arrays. Then many other pieces of gear laser grids, blah blah blah.. but I can cover the relevance of those pieces of equipment if ness and how they fit into the system I use and why. There are two sides to my research. The public side and the personal side. They vary due to a lot of the concepts I deal with being a bit head blagging and the general public only been on events for a psychical research experience not a major four hour lecture...which I can do if they want it lol...
Well its my view of things as far as the cross over goes, but my deep down oppinion removing all external influences is that unless we push the boundries of science, we will find it very hard to come to any kinds of conclusions within the area of research as the answers mainly lay within frequencies we can not yet recognise or record. But we are now looking at the footsteps in the sand and who knows where they might lead? Thanks for the input people. |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:24 am Post subject: |
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There will most likely be bits you may disagree with
There will but I'll disagree in a friendly discussive manner. Thanks for posting that extensive opinion Iain, you've put a lot of thought into it and that's very much appreciated.
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bitterbuck1 Moderator
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Give me a bit and I too will read it.
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flossy Moderator
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:02 am Post subject: |
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wow iain how long did it take you to do that one |
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Iain Lawrence
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Thanks people, just have a read if you get a bit of spare time. It din't take too long, Its just general observations and oppinions of over lapping subjects. Just thought you guys might find it intereting. |
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Iain Lawrence
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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Im still waiting lmao.... |
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thecactus
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:20 am Post subject: |
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I agree with your view at the beginning about the soul and the body - do you believe it is possible for the soul to leave the body temporarily in life? like the commonly described OBE out of body experience, which is usually reported with a NDE Near death experience. |
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Iain Lawrence
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Why not, bith are frequencial afterall. Even though we talk about the world around us and our physical bodys being atomic, the atomic world is also frequency. So even though we are in some way locked within the frequency which is atomic, there may well be psychic means of fluctuating away from that point of reference maybe at the point of death. Death being the end of the life atomic battery. I'll attempt to put it another way. Your body may grow old and you may feel the effects of that age physicaly, but the person inside the atomic body doesn't age. Age is a thing connected to the physical, incorperating time and movement in relation to interaction within the physical world. When we die do we suddenly become old? no we continue at another level/frequency and except it as we did before we were born. The physical world is no more than an excistant state. |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Iain Lawrence wrote: | Why not, bith are frequencial afterall. Even though we talk about the world around us and our physical bodys being atomic, the atomic world is also frequency. So even though we are in some way locked within the frequency which is atomic, there may well be psychic means of fluctuating away from that point of reference maybe at the point of death. Death being the end of the life atomic battery. I'll attempt to put it another way. Your body may grow old and you may feel the effects of that age physicaly, but the person inside the atomic body doesn't age. Age is a thing connected to the physical, incorperating time and movement in relation to interaction within the physical world. When we die do we suddenly become old? no we continue at another level/frequency and except it as we did before we were born. The physical world is no more than an excistant state. |
Surely, when we die our 'energy' is essentially heat that is dissipated into the ground/atmosphere. There's no evidence that this heat energy contains data, consciousness or personality.
For example if you've been watching Paranormal Activity and Paranormal Activity 2 on your TV and you switch your TV off when they've finished can you recognise or retrieve anything of the films from the heat that has emerged from the TV set and permeated into the surrounding air, furniture and walls?.
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Iain Lawrence
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:32 am Post subject: |
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We must be carefull here not to stay too close to know scientific reality. The concepts of heat energy and electromagnetic energy are interactive and documentable within the atomic world, but there are theoreticaly other energy frequencys which we can not document or read through known scientific means or process's. The frequencys between the frequencys so to speak. Just because we leave the space we take in life, does not mean that space is empty. In other words, the life force energy of humans and animals has never been documented, yet we are alive, we know we exist because we are consious entitys interactive within our own experiences and thought process's. Dees this then mean that because we can not read or document our soul energy that we do not exist? No, so when we pass into death, theoreticaly that energy or frequency or group of interactive frequencys remain behind at a different level. The human body atomicaly is a battery which holds the information which is us, it also holds atomically recognised energy which allows information to be transfered around the body in order for it to pass information via the neuro net work. We can say this is there because we can document it. But the soul energy is working at another level either within or connected too the physical body. It is difficult to make a comparison within the atomic world except imagine its like someone walking from a point in the room and you follow them. But when you get to where they were, you bump into the etheric body which has not moved with the physical one.?? Hope this helps? |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Iain Lawrence wrote: | Just because we leave the space we take in life, does not mean that space is empty. In other words, the life force energy of humans and animals has never been documented, yet we are alive, we know we exist because we are consious entitys interactive within our own experiences and thought process's.
when we pass into death, theoreticaly that energy or frequency or group of interactive frequencys remain behind at a different level.
The human body atomicaly is a battery which holds the information which is us, it also holds atomically recognised energy which allows information to be transfered around the body in order for it to pass information via the neuro net work. We can say this is there because we can document it.
But the soul energy is working at another level either within or connected too the physical body. It is difficult to make a comparison within the atomic world except imagine its like someone walking from a point in the room and you follow them. But when you get to where they were, you bump into the etheric body which has not moved with the physical one.?? Hope this helps? |
When we die we cease to exist. The only space we occupy is in the ground or as ash. There is no scientific proof that anything other than physical death happens, the body and the brain cool and the heat goes elsewhere - that unfortunately is the bottom line. I wish it weren't but it seems that it is.
There are of course multiple hypotheses (not theories) that suggest we somehow survive physical brain death but they are speculation with no valid supporting evidence. We may at some point in the future discover otherwise but based on what we know now IMO death is a cold black wall.
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