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Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

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thecactus · Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland

Iain I would recommend that you look into the UFO/ET phenomenon - it really is interesting - you should check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyVe-6YdUk&feature=channel_video_title

The Disclosure Project - A good place to start, to get an overwiew of it all.

I'm sure spirits and orbs tie in with UFOs/ETs - a lot of those who claim to have witnessed them say they can go through walls etc...

D B Sweeney · Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:32 am Post subject: Re: Not enough interest.

Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

Great words DB and ye, I have my idea's of the alien thing too and the cross over aspect.
Its just been a long hard drudge. I'm still running events and have just taken more dates. Im sure the tech aspect wil appeal to more people once the smoke screan of scare mongers has drifted away. I know people need answers but some just need them too quickly and are drawn to the light of phantasy. I'll keep the tech lights burning and you never know! P.s Ive just fitted another monitor in the cam van. Thats 3 stand alone recording monitors in IR I can rig into a venue and can watch the environment on 19" screens as it happens, knowing that if we see and document anything, it will be captured upon the camera too.
Thanks again guys.

thecactus · Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland

No problem Iain - it's just with your enthuasiasm, outlook and approach - I think you would be useful in Ufology - good at sorting the riff from the raff so to speak Very Happy

Also the knowledge you have already compiled you would be able to use and find similarities in the ET/UFO phenomenon.

Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

I have concentrated my efforts upon the realm of psychical investigation and the study of un-explainable phenomenon within the context of research within the paranormal area of life outside and beyond the human physical body ( the physical atomic interactive battery).
I am now watching the dvd you linked me to and will give my oppinion later for what thats worth lol.
I have had an oppinion for a long time ,that one concept is linked to the other and we are infact of an origin which is linked well beyond not only the atomic/physical world, but the world in general. People have a problem sometimes getting there heads around anything which is shall we say out of the box. The idea of the entire existance of life "at what ever level" being physical and within the small amout of frequencies into which we apparantly fit is obsurd to me?
The idea that we are trapped within this shell of atomic matter I find also obsured.
People look for space ships and UFO's, which on the surface may well all seem well and good, but lets look deeper (as so many do). Lets go sub and pro atomic and the idea of extra-terrestrial life seems much more convincing. You have to look at the way humans exist in order to work out the origins of human life. We are a dominant, agressive, self obssesed atomic life form (if life is the right word to use here?) and we want what we can't have. Would it not be natural for us then to want control of the frequencial environment around us, as control gives the ability to exist as an entity and more than just energy.
This attitude is probably generic and may well have been passed down through the physical structure and indeed psychical structure of our gene pool. We have come to know..(all theory)...that we exist as an energy within a physical shell which can interact within its environment. Our ability to do this at such a high level of ability has been produced over a very long and evolutionary process. If you can imagine that an energy which exists within a massive range of frequencies and which requires the ability to stabilise its self. The ability to be able to begin a creationary process which starts well beyond the single sell stage of evolution and to (over many millions of years) produce a constructive interactive stable environment in order to exist would be very beneficial.
The evolutionary process may well have begun from the need of a energy based life form a whole long time ago. Which aquired the ability through enegy reaction, to produce physcal matter. Maybe as God would have been expected to do so from a religous perspective.
The space time environmental realist world in which we live would therefor be a production of which we created in order to exist at a constant level "not fequecial, fluctuating or disapating. (A constant battery orrientated chemical/elemental based physical matter being) , with all the benefits of renewable and productive life energy and re distribution from physical body to physical body over and over again. Enter then re-encornation theory from a slightly different perspective.
So to run over what we have just covered.
We are ourselves an energy which required at some point the ability to stabilise its self and in order to achieve this we created or adapted the ability to interact and become part of the elemental physical world in which our soul energy can exist with a physical body and stay at a reproductive constant, which draws energy from the atomic world around it in order to sustain physical matter ie the human body . Once the physical body dies, the soul energy disapates to a slightly different level and then re applies its self into a new fresh physical body to continue the process. This would answer the question of life after death, re encornation, soul energy leaving the body at the point of death, Apperitions, the list goes on.
The idea of space ships and alien life forms from other places interacting with us would not be counted out either.
The process could have been going on else where and we are maybe even on the brink of being given more answers (though Im sure some have been told more than others, no wonder considering some of the numptys around and there expected reaction to such information), the speed of thechnology and our improved logic may well be a sign of alien intervention right now) or the evolutionary process has suddenly taken a turn for the better considering what as been achieved other the past 200 years in conparrison to the past 2000 years.
But to sum up I do believe that we are both spirit and alien, as one is the other and both technicaly are the same. It's just the origin of the two which seems to be in question and what a great question at that.
But I have to state no that the probabilty that any theory we come up with being right is very doughtfull considering we can only produce theories based on known and learned knowledge, which means that everytime we adapt a new one it has come from our own mind. The problem there is, unless we have an iota of information conserning the actual real answer we can not begin the equation, leaving us dead in the water. All we need is the one piece of the jigsaw puzzle.
So no I won't be sat outside with my telescope looking for answers, I shall be pondering and attempting to make the first scratch in the bamboo of truth.

thecactus · Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland

Your theories are very complex Iain - I hope you enjoy the video. I don't think there is any chance all the thousands of highly credible witnesses (most ex military - up to Colonels and above) can be crazy or deluded. This is a very complex subject itself with many different sides to it.

Firstly you have to come to the conclusion that we have/are in fact being visited by ETs - and with your need for hard physical evidence (like DB) this may be hard. For me (as for the courts of law) witness testimony can sometimes by useful, and when stacked on top of each other can become evidence. Video evidence is tricky, with the advent of CGI. Also there are a % of all cases that are hoaxes (as you must know the same with a lot of paranormal cases - poltergiests, haunted houses etc)

Those who believe - the main beings reported are 'the greys'. Those who claim to have had contact with them say they are telepathic, there are different types large and small etc... They appear to have a much greater understanding of what happens after we die etc and spiritually in general - they claim our bodies are only 'containers' and seem to have a reincarnation belief. Of course this is all still theoretical for me, as more research is needed yet Very Happy

Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

A lot of what you mention is linked to my theory-es too, The reincornation and human physical reproductive battery theory etc. Theres also a good chance that we are directly related to what we call ET's through our gene pool, which is rather amusing actualy considering we call them paranormal and yet we don't even know what we are either? does that make us paranormal to ourselves. Also if all is one and we exist at an energy level we would be conected to the ET's through one way or another anyway, as we are with all the physical things around us...dark energy and dark matter and other elemental ambient energys we have not yet discovered or have any comprehension of. These beings would be teleapathic in the same way we perceive spirit energys to be, as if we are connected anyway, we do not need to recieve the information as it is already there with us to interact with.
Its a very big subject and as I have said before, through psychical research I do not close off any belief structure as I believe we are all looking at the same subject from different perspectives and as I also said "These beliefs are like pieces of an almost complete jigsaw puzzle, in order to find the true picture we have to find the correct pieces from each bag and produce another full true picture where all the pieces from different bags fit together and offer us the answers. By segragating beliefs we are blinding ourselves from the truth. The problem comes in finding the time to research so much know evidence while conducting investigations and paying the bills. If only I could find a job which offered all these options! Im running Hauntastic events...during these events I teach people to be open minded and how to produce productive documented evidence which can back up already known theorys, this could by all means include the theory of ET existance and a link to our brothers and sisters from another place and reality. The search goes on!

thecactus · Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland

I too lean towards a reincarnation type belief, over heaven and hell etc...

But I don't agree with what you said - ''all is one'' etc... I think we are all seperate entities with free will and choices, but I do believe in the soul/spirit. I don't really go into to all the energy stuff, because it is in between paranormal and science, a grey theoretical area.

lol you should have been born an octopus Ian Laughing

Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

I am an octopus.
Science and the paranormal and advanced theoretics will always walk hand in hand. Most of our beliefs concerning paranormal theorys are afterall based around our imaginations and so are all of the above.
1, Theory is the way we attempt to come to conclusions which to a large degree relys upon our imaginations ability to compile data and make sence of it.
2, Science is no more than excepted theory and applies to the above as for as imaginations goes.
3, The paranormal is a name we put to things we have no understanding of and little evidence of. Which gives fuel to imaginationa and theories there in.
I attempt to make sence of it all by imagining that everything is eminating from an energy based background. A massively detailed structure of energy
which produces all we experience and in fact who we are. It also explains many theoretic principles and appears to have little in the way of boundries. Its just a shame we can't asses as to what we are, we could then attempt to work out what everything else is. We see everything as normal around us, because its all we have known in the physical plain...but Im sure the overall picture is very much different.

thecactus · Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland

Iain I was having a quick look through your site, what are these:

Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

Actualy thats a very good question lol.
I had gone back into the grave yard in order to retreive a dictaphone (I'm weird like that) and decided to take my camera along with me to take some general shots along the way. On checking the pictures later I came across these interesting anomilies? Ive looked all over to find anything which could explain them. Its not refraction or reflection and there is no position which leads me to believe there is an origin of emination.
This has been a real head scratcher for me.
It's a long while since I took those pics and I don't think I've even got the origional file as I have reformatted that particular external hardrive and some files didn't transfer to back up (even though they were suposed to).
I only use this photograph as an example of interesting and confusing light anomilies I have been unable to debunk...although I usualy can..obsessively.
The only explanation I can get close to with this example is the theory of willow the whisp? Light anomilys which guide travellers to the deaths in swamp land or to safety? Lights seen over lakes and rivers. But there was no water mass in the area and I wasn't lost?
Anyway it's interesting and I'm glad you found it. Shame I don't have the origional file anymore or I'd use it more productively.

thecactus · Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland

Well I think a spirit of a dead person can form in many different ways - sometimes they look exactly like a normal person (although usually from a different era etc) sometimes they are the shap of a person but in the form of a light (I think I seen one of these when I was very young) sometimes black shadow entities, sometimes orbs, sometimes they don't show at all and their presence is just made known by noise or movement of objects etc...

So could this not have been a spirit/s that are possibly even in this graveyard, or even the grave itself where the orbs are? Did you check out the grave that they are over?

Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

Ye I checked the head stone, but didn't make much of a connection exeprt for the fact that there were 3 bodies there. Could be spirit lights, but the fact is I'll never realy know. Just one more piece of the jigsaw.

Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

After all its a complicated sittuation and no conclusions should be attempted without al the facts.
I just watched Insidious..what a pile of stupid turd. Made investigators look like a set of numptys!! this kind of crap is what gives us a bad name!Film makers should stick to selling films about fast cars, war and wemons breasts! Leave the brain stuff to peole who give a damb about the outcome of there actions. It tar's all paranormal investigators with the same brush...nerds who have no common sense.
To think I know people who liked it and who were scared by it and said "you should watch it, theres men on there who do what you do!"
No there isn't. But there are a couple of cheap rate actors who have no idea about the subject or infact any of the equipment we use or why we use it! Theres nothing like getting the film facts right and thats nowt like the facts!