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Barney & Betty Hill - true or false?
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The vid I posted is not the one I was talking about but I need more time to find it. it's half way through another vid, I will get there in the end.
She did talk of sickness in it too.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
I had read somewhere that they were sick afterwards, and a likely source would have been exposure to heavy radiation.


So what if they were sick (which I've not seen reported anywhere)?. Being 'sick' is a catch all phrase - it could have been anything - headache, stomach upset, travel fatigue etc etc.

We only have their word for the missing time - there were no direct witnesses to this ground breaking abduction.

DB
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bitterbuck1
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
Here you go bitter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g93YoWsHjU
and a bit more info...

http://www.richplanet.net/detail.php?dbindex=58
This is a massivley commpeling account.


Thanks Scott.
I watched the first link...Part 1.
You know, she's really quite convincing.
And I don't believe in alien abduction.
After lunch I'll watch the 2 part and the second link
you put up.
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bitterbuck1
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
bitterbuck1, I had never heard of The UFO Incident, but you can watch it on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsrsxtGSDcM


Thanks Cactus.
I looked on Netflix to see if I could rent it.
They don't have it in there queue.
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Inn Spectre



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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
It must have been filmed before she snuffed it.
Nice piece of deduction there.
I suppose her needing to be alive in order to speak is what swings it.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inn Spectre wrote:
Agentscott wrote:
It must have been filmed before she snuffed it.
Nice piece of deduction there.
I suppose her needing to be alive in order to speak is what swings it.


Laughing

DB
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol Laughing nice one INN

i watched 6 parts of the first clip, but it got a bit boreing so didnt watch any more
i watched the 2nd, (the film version of what happened)
the doctor seemed to think it was something betty dreamt and passed it on to barney, could be a posibility Confused
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the doctor seemed to think it was something betty dreamt and passed it on to barney, could be a posibility


That was the general consensus at the time and as far as I'm concerned it still stands.

DB
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D B Sweeney, do you think there is any chance the entire story was fabricated, or do you believe that the Hills did believe they were abducted?
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
D B Sweeney, do you think there is any chance the entire story was fabricated, or do you believe that the Hills did believe they were abducted?


From what I've read I think the Hills genuinely believed they were abducted. Based on what can be gleaned from their character profiles I don't think they fabricated the story although they may have unintentionally embellished parts of it.
I believe that they believed what happened to them was a real event/experience. The more they told the story the more it was reinforced in their minds as an actual event. This is a well known human psychological trait. We can see the same reinforcement in Agentscotts accounts of his sightings - the more he relates the stories, the more they become aliens/secret tech and the more he's convinced that he's right and any criticism is wrong.
I've seen this many many times with people who become so convinced of their experiences that those experiences become set in stone.
I was like that once so I know where people like Agentscott is coming from.

DB
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D B Sweeney wrote:
the doctor seemed to think it was something betty dreamt and passed it on to barney, could be a posibility


That was the general consensus at the time and as far as I'm concerned it still stands.

DB



But how would Barney and Betty have seen the exact same thing (before the hypnosis) - the craft hovering 80-100 ft above them etc..?

I dont think this was possible unless they were both mentally unstable - to get mixed up with a dream and reality and then pass it on to someone else Confused
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
D B Sweeney wrote:
the doctor seemed to think it was something betty dreamt and passed it on to barney, could be a posibility


That was the general consensus at the time and as far as I'm concerned it still stands.

DB



But how would Barney and Betty have seen the exact same thing (before the hypnosis) - the craft hovering 80-100 ft above them etc..?

I dont think this was possible unless they were both mentally unstable - to get mixed up with a dream and reality and then pass it on to someone else Confused


They were a married couple. The dynamics of people who are married and share their lives 24/7 dictate that there will be conscious and subconscious sharing of experiences or in this case dreams/fantasies. Folie a deux is one credible explanation.

DB
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2011 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

credible but not conclusive - Im really not sure about this case
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting stuff though, she seemed to have all her marbles in the video.
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The more you deny DB as we see in all of your posts the more we know that nothing will ever exist for you and thats a pity, no mystery.
I'd hate it if there was no paranormal and this is Earth how it can only ever be for us.
When my first zoomed off at a out of this world speed, that showed it was not normal and debunkable. sorry.

Explane it then DB, white balll blue light flyes around in diferent directions then zoomes of?.....Balloon?
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