Graveyards

Solstice Moon · Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 272 Location: Horsham, W Sussex

Here's a question for you. I've my own opinions on the matter (haven't I always?) but I'd be interested to hear what you all think first.

We've all heard about haunted graveyards, and cemetrys, but why? When you think about it, most ghosts haunt either where they died, or somewhere they were closely connected with when alive. How many people actually die in graveyards, or have enough of a connection with one to haunt it? I realise some people may have died in them, but I'm talking about the majority.

So, any thoughts?

mrx3010 · Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 579

I believe that any ghost seen in a graveyard is almost in a personal hell of sorts, in other words they desire to be back in there body and likely do not understand that they are in fact dead. If the soul is attached to the physical body and refuses to leave even though he/she can not stay they may in fact linger near it for a time. But you are likely right, most haunting's (inteligents) occur at the place of trauma and death.

damaralenoire · Joined: 19 Oct 2008 Posts: 334 Location: South Wales UK

I have always felt that spirits haunt graveyards for reasons such as they feel safe or they are that they find it difficult to leave their actual bodies. Plus, Many graveyards I visit are linked to churches or places of worship and therefore I like to think that they like to stay close by to try and seek help themselves.

twirly-girly · Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 65 Location: Norfolk, England

But what happens if thery're cremated? I've never heard of an urn being haunted before.

Maybe they went looking for themselves in the afterlife and thought they'd hang around to see who comes to mourn them? lol

Solstice Moon · Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 272 Location: Horsham, W Sussex

All good suggestions, and now I'm going to add another, and just to be different I'm going to suggest a new haunting classification to.

I've theorised before about residual haunts being started by an outpouring of emotional energy, that usually takes the form of a replay of past events. Well, how much emotion is expended by people in graveyards? Sorrow at the passing of loved ones for a start (funerals just feel sombre, even without knowing the deceased, could this be us sensing the emotions of others?), and sometimes fear from people walking through on dark nights. Graveyards have churches too, which often project a solem aurora over the place.

Could it be that some of the hauntings aren't of individual people, but more a mass of emotion causing the feeling of a non existant entity? Basically a non person residual. Any thoughts?

Oh, and apologies for typos etc, this is done via a mobile during my lunch break.

mrx3010 · Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 579

I agree, it is posible that the emotions may be both cause and effect in a way.

Solstice Moon · Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 272 Location: Horsham, W Sussex

So, if it's possible for a collection of negative emotions from different people can combine to create an atmosphere, and if it's accepted that a manifestation of a residual is just our minds interpretation of the energy it receives, then would it be possible for our mind to "manifest" this hotch potch of energies into a "ghost"? Obviously it'd be a ghost made up from the emotions of hundreds of people, and so wouldn't have an individual identity, but a ghost never the less?

damaralenoire · Joined: 19 Oct 2008 Posts: 334 Location: South Wales UK

See this is where I need to take a step back and try to understand the liberal use of these definations. Ghost to me would suggest an individual spirit of a being, Poltergeist I would not take to mean evil as some people immediately do BUT as what the word translates Noisy Ghost. If as you say there are the emotions of several souls merging to form this mass energy then instead of saying its a ghost i would simply say its a spiritual energy.

What does get to me though looking back at the whole poltergeist thing. Do you find people always assume a ghost that knocks or as you see on MOST HAUNTED a ghost who makes a noise on reques should not be just determined as a ghost but as a poltergeist. If i saw a ghost just there looking or moving around minding its own business thats fare enough, but any spirit that makes a noise or can knock on demand however friendly it is, I would class as a poltergeist. Cos i get annoyed when people always class evil ghosts as the poltergeists.

Am i just rambling or does anyone see what I mean

Solstice Moon · Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 272 Location: Horsham, W Sussex

damaralenoire · Joined: 19 Oct 2008 Posts: 334 Location: South Wales UK

See, i have watched documentarys about supposed poltergeist activity from adolescents etcf and that all well known famous case back in the 70's The Enfield Poltergeist is probably the most famous story of alledged poltergeist activity ever in England, it occured between August 1977 and September 1978, with a further incident in August 1980.
But even in that documentary you could see a lot of proof that the activity was fraudulent and they even said in that filming that the events were causd from the girls subconscious psychokinesis. Psychokinesis is essentially a mind-over-matter situation which agreeable is a paranormal matter in itself but not to go as far as labelling it poltergeist activity.

damaralenoire · Joined: 19 Oct 2008 Posts: 334 Location: South Wales UK

I would just to share some pics of a graveyard a very often visit because it is so big that its to much to see in one visit. Its in the Heath area of Cardiff called Cathays Graveyard.

All these pictures were taken on my mobile phone so apoogies if any of them are blurr and fuzzy, but to be honest i think i got a bloody good camera on my phone. lol

mrx3010 · Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 579

Lets also not forget that a lot of Poltergeist activity may in fact be caused by humans directly and indirectly both physically and psychically. It is referred to as Recurrent Spontaneous Psycho Kinesis by some researchers and is not considered in the actual "ghost" (energy from a once live person) category.

If we consider that emotions can cause energies to be imprinted on time then it would also go to reason that both positive and negative energy could have the same results.

YB · Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:29 am Post subject:

Ok, first pic, just below the feet of the center figure to the left is a cross. On the bottom of the right arm, I'm assuming this is another gravestone figure off in the distance?? If not...

flossy · Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:24 am Post subject:

i see that YB
good eyes there Wink

bitterbuck1 · Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:37 am Post subject:

How old is this cemetery Damara?
Great pictures.

I see the figure your talking about too YB.
Usually I need someone to circle the dang thing. Very Happy