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thecactus



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
Hi Nevermore, I suggested pipes as a sarcastic explanation commonly used by debunkers just to highlight how they try to blame it on anything available.

I beleive this is likely a real haunting and unlike thecactus I can commit to a decision either way.

Cant sit on a fence forever.


I can commit to a decision, but unlike you I need more information before doing so; a lot more. If some random person joins here and says they saw a light in the sky you instantly believe it's aliens, or if they say they heard a noise on the stairs, you believe it is definitely a 'real haunting' without considering any other rational possibilities. If someone came on here and said they were abducted by tellytubbies and barney the dinosaur you would probably believe it Very Happy
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flossy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey how did you know about my tellytubbie abduction, i didnt tell anyone about that Laughing
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flossy wrote:
hey how did you know about my tellytubbie abduction, i didnt tell anyone about that Laughing


Careful, Agentscott is highly suggestible Wink

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uh ohh Laughing
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps i'm annoyed by those comments or perhaps i'm thinking you got me all wrong????
Cant quite decide??hehehe Laughing

I know one thing though ET is real. I base my opinions on my sighgtings thats how I know. Your ignorance and DB's debunking is tainting your decision making.
Perhaps if you were a little more serious and could make a decision about ET then you would get a sighting.

Think outside the box.
They've been lying to you and you've swallowed the lot.

I cant understand how you think invisible dead people are more likley then, living beings from another world?

Remeber thecactus this is a healthy debate and not a war...or time for insults.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont take offence scott im sure it was said in jest
sorry if you took it the wrong way Very Happy

actually i do think there are other life forms out there some where, space is too big for there not to be Wink
but what im not sure of yet is if they have visited us yet
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
Perhaps i'm annoyed by those comments or perhaps i'm thinking you got me all wrong????
Cant quite decide??hehehe Laughing

I know one thing though ET is real. I base my opinions on my sighgtings thats how I know. Your ignorance and DB's debunking is tainting your decision making.
Perhaps if you were a little more serious and could make a decision about ET then you would get a sighting.

Think outside the box.
They've been lying to you and you've swallowed the lot.

I cant understand how you think invisible dead people are more likley then, living beings from another world?

Remeber thecactus this is a healthy debate and not a war...or time for insults.


Well I am a little insulted that you called me ignorant but anyway

''I know one thing though ET is real''

That is a very broad and unspecific statement - I believe that other life does most likely exist throughout the universe, but whether any aliens have visited earth is another thing.

''Perhaps if you were a little more serious and could make a decision about ET then you would get a sighting''

I actually do take the subject seriously, but I think it is ridiculous that you think believing aliens have been here will enable me to get ''a sighting''.

''They've been lying to you and you've swallowed the lot.''

Who has been lying to me and why?

''I cant understand how you think invisible dead people are more likley then, living beings from another world?''

I have various reasons for believing spirits exist which I have pointed out many times on here.

''Remeber thecactus this is a healthy debate and not a war...or time for insults''

You are the one being argumentative - there is no proof that aliens have visited earth in UFOs agentscott and that is a fact.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
Your ignorance and DB's debunking is tainting your decision making.


This is what a Debunker is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debunker
This is what a Sceptic is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skepticism

I'm the latter Wink

DB
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont worry Floss, I was just breaking even for the suggestable comment to make a point. Cactus and I are usually freinds so I hope, dispite the odd dissagrement and DB too.

Dont be insulted Cactus, ignorance is only ones not knowing and not an insult. I'm lucky ive seen them.

Got to admit though other than the yellow this looks alot like DB's style.

OK DB a Skeptic. Wink
How we see ourselves can sometimes differ from how others see us.

Bigtime debunker more like.
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott, the yellow is just to quote what you said and make it clear what I was replying to.

I actually think you are the ignorant one, as you come to conclusions before you know all the facts.
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That puts you plus one now Cacus.
I may be ignorant when it come to ghosts although my strange lights experiences around the house are quite real.

It must be difficult to imagin what I had seen, say my 3rd sighting but they were very real and quite conclosive. There is something up there and it can only be tech or ET.

But we musnt beleive they got here coz science says it's not possible.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
There is something up there and it can only be tech or ET.

But we musnt beleive they got here coz science says it's not possible.


There's no doubt that there's civilian and military tech up there Agentscott, that's a given.

Science holds all it's knowledge provisionally, that's the beauty of it. If new evidence comes to light, science changes it's stance - it's called progress. Science does not say Aliens don't exist or aren't visiting us - it looks at the evidence and says it's highly unlikely.

DB
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
That puts you plus one now Cacus.
I may be ignorant when it come to ghosts although my strange lights experiences around the house are quite real.

It must be difficult to imagin what I had seen, say my 3rd sighting but they were very real and quite conclosive. There is something up there and it can only be tech or ET.

But we musnt beleive they got here coz science says it's not possible.


The idea is to discuss the topics, not score points agentscott Rolling Eyes

But no I just meant you are ignorant in general as you quickly come to conclusions without knowing the full facts and most of what you say is illegible Very Happy

Yes I am sure there is 'something up there', but it doesn't have to be 'tech or ET', it could be satellites or a whole host of other astronomical phenomena that you remain ignorant of Very Happy

Your last sentence was nonsensical.
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plus one was a joke cactus, the last sentance was sarcasm.
OK guys thats great, if thats what you beleive, then hold fast.

I dont want to debate the realness of ET, I dont want my sightings getting played down. I trust my sightings and untill you see simular you couldn't possibly understand or know why I come to a conclosion.

My sightings are usually much more than the usuall and now I will not disscus ET futher unless i'm swaping experience with other witnesses.

That where the answers lay.
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott,

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My sightings are usually much more than the usuall


You seem to want to believe that you and your sightings are special - moreso than other UFO witnesses. I honestly believe whatever you saw, you have magnified it and exaggerated it inside your own head, and convinced yourself that you witnessed alien spacecraft or 'tech' Laughing

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and now I will not disscus ET futher unless i'm swaping experience with other witnesses.

That where the answers lay.


That is also where a load of bullshit lays Wink
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