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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks cactus, it is weird I spotted that vid on Rude Tube and then thought OMG, the animation is Gif imiging and there will be a new Nyan cat vid soon, my one. hehehe.

Now I can get the veiws on my channel too. I do kind of like the music though. Don't laugh!!
I wont join that forum as the debate that DB loves so much gives me a head ache.

It seems that You have misunderstood me again DB and I doubt you will ever understand now.

What you call healthy debate is in my book an argument.
Do you realise what these people/me have seen. You haven't seen what any of them have so how can you comment? It wasn't you who was haunted over a life time ect so how can you be sure it's imagination. Do you remeber that guy who joined here recently?, can't remember his name but he was good, his story was of a haunting over a lifetime and sounded terrifying for him and his wife and then you tried to tell him it was just pipes.

He got pissed and didn't come back.
People who have seen and heard thing join these places to talk about ghosts and paranormal occourences being real and when they get debunked or DB red taped as ive come to call it that makes them go.(mostly)
You need to accept that you are a debunker.
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least you havent tried to deny it.
Taking one of your alternate opinions is like a kick in the nuts.
They know it's ghosts, we all do and yet you try and tell every one it's there brain going wrong.

I hate debunkers sweeny and ive had em up to here.
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're as bad as Deebunquer and I suspect you might even have been Deebunquer.
You both enjoy the challenge of the debunk.
Oh the books oh the science, it's the only way...
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

''Taking one of your alternate options is like a kick in the nuts'' LMAO Laughing
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:


What you call healthy debate is in my book an argument.


In your book. Very Happy

DB
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:

Do you realise what these people/me have seen. You haven't seen what any of them have so how can you comment? It wasn't you who was haunted over a life time ect so how can you be sure it's imagination. Do you remeber that guy who joined here recently?, can't remember his name but he was good, his story was of a haunting over a lifetime and sounded terrifying for him and his wife and then you tried to tell him it was just pipes.

He got pissed and didn't come back.


I can only read their accounts of what they describe. Since some time will have passed between their sightings/experiences and them writing about it, it's pretty reasonable to assume the accounts won't match exactly and errors, embellishments and additions will have crept in, in many of the cases. That's not to say that they're not being totally honest in their re-telling and their belief that they saw something supernatural.
Unlike you AgentScott I don't take them at their word and believe everything at face value, simply because I've read a lot over many years about how the human cognitive system works and how it's prone to error.
I haven't seen many things but I'm qualified to comment on them. I've seen UFOs and ghosts as a matter of fact and I've seen the things that people mistake them for - you included.
It wasn't you who was haunted over a life time ect so how can you be sure it's imagination.
It wasn't you either so how can you be sure it wasn't imagination?.
Do you remeber that guy who joined here recently?, can't remember his name but he was good
Good in what way? because he told a credible story that you believed without question?.
He got pissed and didn't come back.
Did he? How do you know that?. Did he PM you or are you just jumping to conclusions without any evidence?.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:

People who have seen and heard thing join these places to talk about ghosts and paranormal occourences being real and when they get debunked or DB red taped as ive come to call it that makes them go.(mostly)
You need to accept that you are a debunker.


Have you ever considered that people come into forums like this, never post and just read?. Do you understand that some of these lurkers will be both impressionable individuals or children?.
What do you think of a forum where nothing is ever challenged and rational alternative explanations are not provided or even prohibited (ring a bell?) by sceptics such as myself and Carlos?. Are you happy to tell everyone that those evil demons and dark entities are lurking in every unexplained creak, knock and sound heard simply because YOU believe everything you read if the poster seems 'good'?.
You also really need to understand the difference between healthy scepticism and debunking Evil or Very Mad
Unfortunately some people can't take any questions that cast doubt on their supposedly paranormal experiences and they mistakenly see questions or alternative (non paranormal) explanations as hostile non belief or even debunking - both of which it is not.
I don't understand the mindset of people who join open forums and post their paranormal encounters or UFO sightings and who get upset when sceptics challenge their accounts. If they wanted agreement and their ego's stroking they should have joined forums like the one you set up AgentScott that I hear folded.

You need to see the difference between a sceptic and a debunker and until you do you'll be making the same mistakes over and over again.

DB
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:

Taking one of your alternate opinions is like a kick in the nuts.
They know it's ghosts, we all do and yet you try and tell every one it's there brain going wrong.

I hate debunkers sweeny and ive had em up to here.


Perhaps you shouldn't take things so seriously AgentScott Sad it's only a forum for sharing stories and having a bit of debate. You should get out more.
They know it's ghosts, we all do
Do they - do we?. How exactly do you come to that assumption?.
I hate debunkers sweeny and ive had em up to here.
Hate - that's a bit of a strong word for people who simply don't share your world view isn't it?.

There's an old saying you'll have heard of and it goes: "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the Kitchen".

DB
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
you're as bad as Deebunquer and I suspect you might even have been Deebunquer.
You both enjoy the challenge of the debunk.
Oh the books oh the science, it's the only way...


What proof do you have that I ever posed as Deebunquer - I'll tell you...zero, zilch, none, bugger all and sweet FA, that's how much. Oh, apart from your own suspicions that is.
If I was ever Deebunquer it would only take a Mod or Admin to check and if I was I'd like them to tell the forum so.

Science is the only way AgentScott - if you disagree why not post your alternative and if not then put up and shut up whingeing Mad

I'm now off to play Uncharted 3 Very Happy

DB
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:

I wont join that forum as the debate that DB loves so much gives me a head ache.


You'd love it there AgentScott Very Happy . There are people on there who make you look like Carl Sagan Wink

DB
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are a debunker Sweeny, you tell people who know the paranormal is real it is not. Hower the debunkers webite twists even the word it's self you are debunking people. It is you who cant admit it.

This argument is pontless if you are gonna deny what you do do.
"Science is the only way????"hahahah what a debunker statment, how can a real witness ever want to chat with you.

Whats getting out more got to do with anything? I go out likley much more thatn you do and I hate what you stand for and i'm allowed to.

If I can't as you put it winge are you saying I must accept your boring wrong opinions that infact are other peoples opinions that you have been brainwashed into beleiving.

Your so wrong Sweeny.
You are only here to debunk and you enjoy telling people that there is no paranormal and ruining there experiences but You can't even admit that.
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most belivers in the paranormal were driven away by you debunking ways.
I wouldn't love that forum, I have enough of you here.
Another little debunk stop for you is it, do you piss them of too?
Do you not get enough here and have to get more enjoyment there?

Why don't you accept that the paranormal doesn't need proving and doesn't have the same scientific laws as living does, then you can begin actually trying to make sence of it rather tahn trying to make people look stupid for kicks... where have I seen that before.

DeeBunquer sounds awfully like DB doesn't it.
You have the same attitude but you just pretend to be helping. Hiding your real motivation.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
You are a debunker Sweeny, you tell people who know the paranormal is real it is not. Hower the debunkers webite twists even the word it's self you are debunking people. It is you who cant admit it.

This argument is pontless if you are gonna deny what you do do.
"Science is the only way????"hahahah what a debunker statment, how can a real witness ever want to chat with you.

Whats getting out more got to do with anything? I go out likley much more thatn you do and I hate what you stand for and i'm allowed to.

If I can't as you put it winge are you saying I must accept your boring wrong opinions that infact are other peoples opinions that you have been brainwashed into beleiving.

Your so wrong Sweeny.
You are only here to debunk and you enjoy telling people that there is no paranormal and ruining there experiences but You can't even admit that.


Oh dear, got a bee in your kecks Very Happy

DB
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
Most belivers in the paranormal were driven away by you debunking ways.


Where's your proof?.

DB
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:

I wouldn't love that forum, I have enough of you here


Why do you stick around then?.

DB
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