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Is seeing believing, is seeing evidence?
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:06 am    Post subject: Is seeing believing, is seeing evidence? Reply with quote

It was the Philosopher A C Grayling who posed the question “What would you really do if a Monty Python sized hand with extended forefinger pointing at your head appeared from the clouds accompanied by a loud deep voice asking ‘now, do you believe in me ?’”

Would you (a) believe the evidence that there was a ‘god’ (b) question your perception of the event (c) question your sanity?.

Rolling Eyes

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thecactus



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think seeing is ALWAYS believing.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
I don't think seeing is ALWAYS believing.


a, b or c then?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a, b and c
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
a, b and c


So essentially you'd believe there was a god but question your perception of him while doubting your sanity?

Cactus...you need to see a shrink Laughing

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thecactus



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I misread (a) I thought it said consider that this was God - but yes that, and b and c and then d - find out if anyone else seen it.

But there was no need to say I need a shrink Rolling Eyes (it's easy to say things like that behind a computer screen Laughing)


A coward is much more exposed to quarrels than a man of spirit.
Thomas Jefferson


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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

(it's easy to say things like that behind a computer screen - face to face I would just knock half your teeth down your throat)

That's very good of you - do you answer all light hearted comments with your fists?. I bet you're great company on a night out.

Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

above
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats the problem with forums, you can't really tell how something typed was ment to be perseived Rolling Eyes
i could type something that was ment in jest and another could take it as offensive Rolling Eyes
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flossy, yeah I agree
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carlos2010



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flossy wrote:
thats the problem with forums, you can't really tell how something typed was ment to be perseived Rolling Eyes
i could type something that was ment in jest and another could take it as offensive Rolling Eyes


Ah, the misinterpretation of text!

If you state your intentions first and are confident that the person(s) reading are following and are on the same train of thought, then very rarely anything is mis-interpretated, but, in the majority of cases, offensiveness is common when a persons beliefs are questioned to a point when the "believer" feels backed into a corner as they can no longer defend there "belief" or provide suitable answers to questions.


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carlos2010



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure what I would do DB.

Id ask the almighty fore finger for proof that he/she/it is the celestial being known and percieved as "god"

But youd also have to question your own state of mind and wether you actually witnessed the appearance of "god" or at least a digit.
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheres this one going??

A please DB...
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project-reveal



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well this depends.. on the topic of ghosts the exzact thing you said would prolly mean your crazy lol.. but in general terms..

Yes i think seeing is beleiving... Yes it may have a answer to it in 99.9% of the time.

its your word against everyones elses, if you see a ghost or spirit its self evidence.. to you and you alone. now to prove this to pubic would be impossible nealy.
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

project-reveal, very true.
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