maltby private house investigation - real activity

project-reveal · Joined: 27 May 2010 Posts: 99 Location: rotherham

Maltby Private House Paranormal Investigation

Date: 14/05/2010
Location: Maltby
Investigators: Lee S, Nick, Simon, Lee M, Carole, Rachez,
Equipment: 3 CCTV camera’s, 2 Dictaphones, 2 camcorders, 1 k2 EMF meter, 1 emsog EMF meter,
Experiments: Séance, Glasswork, Strobe session,
Video Investigation: Yes 1 - 10 Parts.

Overview

Nicole and her boyfriend current house occupants had sent in various reports of paranormal activity such as:-

Main Bedroom -
Bed bangs almost every night while the homeowner is in bed, as she explained to me, it extremely hard to move the bed alone as it has built in wardrobes which sort of lock the bed in place.

- A window has opened on it's own on one occasion whilst nobody was in the house (homeowner was outside talking to a neighbour who witnessed it open)

Kids Bedroom
- Both children when younger have spoke about an old woman that used to communicate with them in a chair in the corner

Living Room/Stairs
- Ash tray has moved from the mantelpiece into the middle of the living room floor whilst homeowner and friend were in the kitchen

Base Readings
When project-reveal arrived on location, lee and simon started to setup for the interview, while the other members of Project-reveal went around doing base readings while the interview was taking place.

The base readings team had EMF meters, Sound level meters, and temperature meters, there job is to walk about and find all natural causes of EMF, which could result in paranormal activity also take sound readings while there is no one talking, and take temperature readings in every room. Here is what the base readings found to be natural causes.

Readings - Time of reading - Area of Readings - Cause of Reading
20+ mg 9:18 Main Bedroom Router - Alarm Clock
2.5 mg 9:25 Children’s Bedroom Boiler
2.5 mg 9:27 Door of Main BR Sky Dish
0.0 mg 9:31 Children’s Bedroom 2

35.4. db. 22c 9:15 Main Bedroom N/A
40.0 db. 23c 9:22 Children’s Bedroom N/A
36.0 db. 21 c 9:30 Children’s Bedroom 2 N/A

LEGEND: Sound = DB / Temp = C / EMF = MG

The Investigation / Results Write up

When project-reveal arrived on location lee and simon setup ready for the interview, while the others got the above base readings, while in mid interview strange happenings started to happen, to the left of the camera is some food with clingfilm wrapped around it. While simon was talking to Nicole the clingfilm made a noise, Lee Steer who was behind the camera watched the filming shrivel, which I thought was abit strange after working in the pub trade many yeays and he has never witnessed anything like that due to the temperatures of the clingfilm or food.

The interview carried on, and suddenly the camera changed colour to like a dark red film… lee had to shout simon to hold the interview so he could fix the issue, on what he has never seen before, However it must be a camera glitch.

The interview carried on for like 10 - 15 mins longer and the client suddenly started to feel sick, and ill, so we turned off the camera,

After the interview and base readings, Project-reveal split up into 2 groups to investigate the house, all equipped with an EMF meter, Dictaphone, flash camera, and a camcorder, they took it in turns to investigate each and every room by doing evp sessions, EMF sessions, séances, and other activities..

After a few hours the groups changed locations and did the same again, to see more on what happened with the groups investigations please watch our videos for more info. Meanwhile after another few hours the groups joined back up for a big séance downstairs.

Everyone joined hands was all asking for anything paranormal to happen. Lee S, was to the right of the camcorder with a CCTV camera. And noticed a noise what sounded like someone knocking the camcorder, Lee shouted “did anyone just move the camcorder” Lee M, shouts no, there was no one around the camcorder..
Looking back on film Lee M informed me that the camcorders actually does move.. Nothing else significant happened on the night, intill the review of evidence came upon us which Lee M, reviewed the Camcorder footage and noticed 1. The camera shake, 2. Some orbs, 3. A shadow what moves past the door behind everyone!

Nick who does EVP noticed something interesting as well.. There was a voice captured which wasn’t any of ours..
It is unknown what the voice actually says some could only guess. Why don’t you take a look at our Results video and see for you self?

Overall This was a good Investigation.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHC_qLT91tM [/url]

D B Sweeney · Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:15 am Post subject:

Maltby House Paranormal Investigation by project-reveal. An analysis of reported phenomena with considerations.

Main Bedroom.
Reports of bed banging every night. Bed is reported as being hard to move as it forms part of unit consisting of built in wardrobes.
The fact that the bed makes noises during the night could be down to several reasons not necessarily of supernatural origin. Movement of occupants, loose internal fixing and external vibration being three that initially come to mind. However since the information provided is insufficient to provide a considered conclusion it would not be appropriate to offer an explanation at this point.

Question to consider:
Can you or the occupants of the house describe the nature of the bangs. Are they (the bangs) in a specific part of the bed ie: headboard, base unit etc or are they non-specific in terms of their exact location?.
What time do they occur - randomly or at roughly the same time?. Are both occupants asleep when the noises start?.
Do the occupants sleep with the bedroom window open?. Are there any likely external causes such as factories/workshops/neighbours and what type of house is it? Detached, Terraced, Semi-detached?. Do the occupants own any pets such as cats or dogs?.

A window has been reported to open on its own whilst nobody was in the property. Windows can open without human assistance for a number of reasons. The most common is air pressure differentials/equalisation within a property. I've witnessed this myself on many occasions and it's quite unnerving. Doors opening and closing are also caused by the same process.

Questions to consider:
Did the window open and close or open and stay open?. What type of window was it ie: Sash, top hinged, side hinged etc? Where were the witnesses in relation to the window?. What were the weather conditions at the time?. Were any external doors open at the time of the window opening?.

Kids Bedroom.
Both children on previous occasions have reported conversations with an old woman in their bedroom. This could stem from the active imaginations of young children. Most small children at some point create imaginary friends, in most cases these are benign in nature but the form these imaginary friends take can be heavily influenced by culture and media. Children can often blur the line between reality and fantasy and like adults are prone to both Hypnogogic and Hypnopompic states.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/4841646/One-in-five-young-children-have-imaginary-friends.html

http://www.ivillage.com/should-you-worry-about-your-childs-imaginary-friend/6-n-146009

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia

There is also the recognised phenomenon known as Folie a deux where a delusion or imagination is shared by one or more people. Which could explain why the children may independently describe and report the same imaginary friend for what we may mistake for a spirit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_à_deux

Again, details provided are incomplete and further information would be required before this could be answered in more detail.

Living Room/Stairs.
Ashtray reported to move location whilst room was empty.
Using the principle of Occams Razor the simplest explanation for this could be that the object didn't move and the witnesses were mistaken. Since the occupants were in the kitchen and no one saw this ashtray move we cannot conclusively say one way or another other than suggest that it is possibly an error of human perception - or a ghost.

Base Readings.

I'm not clear what these base reading are intended to reveal since they have no comparative readings taken at any other time. Base readings are a relative measurement that are supposed to compare a benchmark of occasions when no activity is present against times when activity is experienced. The science behind base reading and the equipment used such as EMF meters and recording equipment is controversial and on most occasions data gathered from these devices is liable to outside interference with it's interpretation subject to confirmation bias.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

The Investigation/Results Write Up.

project-reveal reports that during the course of setting up and interviewing 'strange things' started to happen such as a noise coming from some cling film that was wrapped around food. The cling film is reported to have made a noise, however what type of noise is not specified. One would assume that it made a noise like cling film when it is touched or possibly moved by a draft or motion of some kind. This in itself is not an indication of paranormal activity and again, applying the principle of Occams Razor is more likely due to misperception, for example, the sound heard may not have actually come from the cling film but from some other source misinterpreted as the cling film. Details provided are incomplete and opinions given are based on the available information.

As the interview progressed the camera is reported to have changed colour - again I'm assuming the image on the digital display changed to red or a red cast not the camera itself. This is a technical anomaly possibly related to a malfunction in the chip array in the camera. The fact that it happened at the time it did in a location that has reported paranormal activity is most likely purely co-incidental and it's significance may be subject to confirmation bias although project-reveal do acknowledge this as a technical glitch.

Further into the interview the client began to feel sick. No real comment here and I don't think this is being suggested as being related to the activity that the team were there to investigate, however there is a danger that it's mere inclusion will be misinterpreted as being linked in some way to the events as a whole.

During a Seance the camera was seen to move. We're not informed what the camcorder is sitting on on - presumably a tripod resting on the floor. This could be the result of it being knocked accidentally and the person responsible not being aware of doing so or it could be due to a shifting in the carpet or flooring material or even the underlying floorboards or flooring structure. Details provided on this are incomplete.

Orbs are also reported - again, presumably on film. Orbs have been proven (by camera manufacturers) to be dust/moisture often close to the lens and illuminated by flash and are highly unlikely to be evidence of spirit activity although like everything that has been reported in this case - genuine paranormal activity cannot be conclusively ruled out.

http://www.theorbzone.com/

A shadow is also reported moving past a door. Shadows have a variety of sources, usually caused by external or internal lights. The details provided are insufficient to speculate on what could have been responsible but a shadow is just a shadow and not indicative of a supernatural presence. Once again high expectancy and confirmation bias may be a factor in the sighting of a shadow.

Finally an EVP was captured. No further details on this are published. EVP's are open to subjective interpretation and have a number of possible causes (detailed in the link provided) - by far the least likely of which is communication from the dead.

http://www.skepdic.com/evp.html

Ends.

The above opinions on project-reveals investigation are my own and while the investigation seems to have yielded some interesting experiences it would be wrong to see these as confirmation that the property in question is haunted or experiencing activity of supernatural origin - not that project-reveal seems to advocating this as a definitive conclusion. However due to the use of a seance and glasswork (which may be a ouija board) it has to be assumed that a certain amount of expectancy and bias could have influenced the groups investigation.

A very useful link for investigators is detailed below.

http://www.radfordbooks.com/top5mistakes.pdf

Kind regards

DB

bitterbuck1 · Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:04 am Post subject:

Thanks for sharing Project-reveal!
I'll give the video a look as well.

Inn Spectre · Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Posts: 118

The shape behind the door looks convincing, but before eliminating sources like car headlights I would need to know the layout and position of the house.
To me the 'EVP' sounded like "this way" in a northern accent.

D B Sweeney · Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:07 am Post subject:

To me the EVP sounded like 'whisked away' but that's the nature of EVPs their interpretation is subjective. One mans 'this way' in a northern accent is another mans 'please mind the gap' in a Cockney accent.

In terms of further analysis of shadows/shapes seen I'd certainly need far more detailed information in relation to the property's location relative to roads (both localised and with the potential to shine light into the property from a distance), outside lights such as PIR activated garden/property lights etc - all these are going to be factors that have to be discounted before any meaningful explanation is offered.
I've investigated numerous locations where external light sources were responsible for both shadow and light effects that were initially attributed to the movement of ghosts - usually 'out of the corner of my eye' in the words of the witness. In over 30 years of forensic investigation light and shadows IMO account for the bulk of misidentifications when it comes to reports of ghosts or as they've more recently become known... 'shadow people'.

DB

project-reveal · Joined: 27 May 2010 Posts: 99 Location: rotherham

hey there thanks for the responces we are trying to improve on out investigation as we go along.

if you take a look at our other video you will see a big improvement we are trying to do things best we can but its a learning curve to get everything right all the time.

here is what i can tell you.
Project-reveal never once said the place is haunted not even to the clients we captured the evidence and presented it to them. they know what went off on the night and who was there.

but orbs i class as dust anyway, rain, insects, energy bursts,

altogether the investigation is over 10 videos long "as it is now" and it was 6 hours of footage, evp, to all go through so we had to limit bits off the final cut. and from them 10 videos we cut all best bits out to make a good video. we are working on making our videos more interesting and better angles, and idea's into them. to make viewing good.

Our resident skeptic of the group explanes to the person all the possible things what can cause the activity she is having, just so happend i didnt write about it, or publish it to the net.. normaly i do publish stuff like that... not quite sure why i left it out tbh.. sorry :P

With base readings..
you are right that is what we do with base readings. we take readings at the start. middle. and end. and readings while acitivty is happening.

our biggest problem at the moment is logging the readings. *i hold my hands up* but its something we are trying to do and work towards.. as we really want to take a scientific approach to the investigation. as in the past we just let the camera do the talking.. but now we learn that can not just happen. it needs to be logged as well.

we recently had a meeting *a few months after this invest* to come up with a new plan of action for invests which incudle paper work, reading, and evp tagging, and other methods of investigation.

so in the future inveestigations i post you should see a improvement but i hope you like what we are doing so far.. we are really making a go at this.

with the clingfilm the noise can be heard on camera, it to me.. was like a sizzle i actuallt watched it shrivvle up lol..

The tripod was on Wood floor. no one had there feet near it. but still there has to be some reason for it.. but the reason is unknown to us.

the shadow--
the curterns was closed and the door is a all wood door. no windows.plus after the shaodow u would see the headlights on the curterns in the room if it was a car which u can watch on video 9. to see the footage.

EVP
before any evp session (you can watch this on our videos) we always list interaction, and try to take it the best we can. over 4 years.. of investigating this was the first real evp we have caught in 4 years lol

Thanks alot for your post..
and sorry for the spelling.

I will try and touch up more on the next write up. sorry all.

pratice makes perfect. :)
i hope we are doing something good tho :)

we are really wanting to make a effort :)

D B Sweeney · Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:15 pm Post subject:

Thanks project-reveal for the reply. Keep investigating and refining your techniques and I'm sure you'll go from strength to strength.

DB

flossy · Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:07 am Post subject:

dont be sorry, at least your going out there and doing it, and like they say practice makes perfect Wink

project-reveal · Joined: 27 May 2010 Posts: 99 Location: rotherham

thank you so much yes we will get stronger and stronger :D

Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

You are all great guys, you get up and do it. You are a group and as a group you have several members, this in turn means lots of bodys in the space being investigated. I work in a two person set up and keep things very quiet and contained. It helps with enviromental polution. You can say that 2 people can't cover a full enviroment, which is true, so I use infrared security cameras connected to video tv's as well as sony handycams..(I know you have those). A quiet walk around the environment is good for taking documented readings and inform each dictaphone who you are as you pass. These are done at different time intervals so as not to recreate passings.I never whisper and on occasion work alone "not recomended" The evidence is in the smallest things. Id love to join you guys some time, Im sure we'd have loads to talk about. Keep up the great work. P.S I never include psychical work within my investigations. I like to consentrate on the scientific approach.

cocolove · Joined: 03 Nov 2010 Posts: 11

To me the EVP sounded like 'whisked away' but that's the nature of EVPs their interpretation is subjective. One mans 'this way' in a northern accent is another mans 'please mind the gap' in a Cockney accent.

In terms of further analysis of shadows/shapes seen I'd certainly need far more detailed information in relation to the property's location relative to roads (both localised and with the potential to shine light into the property from a distance), outside lights such as PIR activated garden/property lights etc - all these are going to be factors that have to be discounted before any meaningful explanation is offered.
I've investigated numerous locations where external light sources were responsible for both shadow and light effects that were initially attributed to the movement of ghosts - usually 'out of the corner of my eye' in the words of the witness. In over 30 years of forensic investigation light and shadows IMO account for the bulk of misidentifications when it comes to reports of ghosts or as they've more recently become known... 'shadow people'.

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ER(Emergency Room) dvd 90210 dvd

Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

Shadow people is a name given to phenomena which appear as shadows, it is not a new name for ghosts. The word ghost is a collective. It is a group word covering many forms of anomalys.
Sorry, just thought id interject that point so as to cansel out the chance of confusion from other readers.

bitterbuck1 · Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:38 pm Post subject:

When I was working as a grunt/truck driver for the line crews for the electric company
there were many times during the summer storms we would work 24 to 36 hours straight.
That is when I would see these "shadow people".... lol
For me it was due to little sleep or lack of. Laughing

Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

Thats actualy a point which Ive considered before. It appears that it appears people who have actual visual interaction with energys seem to be within the 6Hz and 12Hz. This is the brain frequency associated with dreaming, deep meditation, waiking, sleepyness and the point before being fully awake. This is also generaly the frequency associated with child brain frequency, elderly people and ill people, but not the frequency presant during hallucination. Interesting and a good point to note when conducting investigations. This is why I have a relaxation session before my events. Low light ie; candles, can also lower the brains frequency. Just something to consider, as I do.
I have also actualy seen dark figures on the road..odd isn't it. I don't know if its paranormal but its food for thought. I was doing 14 hours driving for the steel works.

Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

Sorry I wrote appears too many times...it appears that I didn't realise at the time so please excuse me if it appears again, it appears Im obsessed with that word at the moment,as it appears its an on going problem.