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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Iain - stop worrying. Take your time, relax and post when you're comfortable posting.
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Iain Lawrence
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:06 am Post subject: |
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? ok...Ill have a cup of tea, put my feet up, relax to a bit of soothing music and contemplate my life for a while..then once Ive considerd the question from many points of view ....I shall reply.
You sound like a Cadburys caramel advertisment! Time to waik things up a bit I think D.B you shouldn't have to ponder what you know, you ponder what youre not sure of..So I generaly don't ponder. Call me dynamic, but I call it reactive.. |
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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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I ponder everything continually Iain, perhaps a little too much at times. I certainly give much thought to the subjects discussed on here or I'd not get so passionate about them when people post.
I have a bottom line - it applies to everyone I've ever replied to on line or met in person who claims they've seen a ghost, are being haunted or have any other on-going supernatural interactions - I say...show me. Simple as that.
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Iain Lawrence
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Can't argue with that D.B. Im the same, only I don't believe anything unless I see it, record it or get hit by it.
Thats the first thing I explain on both of my web sites.
Its the only way to be. Im not saying theres a lot of people lieng just a lot of mis-directed or fooled people Its a shame. But that will ever stop me looking and trying to explain the world aound me. Im quite sure there something going on, its just what it is thats intresting. |
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bitterbuck1 Moderator
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 3963 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Iain Lawrence wrote: | Thats actualy a point which Ive considered before. It appears that it appears people who have actual visual interaction with energys seem to be within the 6Hz and 12Hz. This is the brain frequency associated with dreaming, deep meditation, waiking, sleepyness and the point before being fully awake. This is also generaly the frequency associated with child brain frequency, elderly people and ill people, but not the frequency presant during hallucination. Interesting and a good point to note when conducting investigations. This is why I have a relaxation session before my events. Low light ie; candles, can also lower the brains frequency. Just something to consider, as I do.
I have also actualy seen dark figures on the road..odd isn't it. I don't know if its paranormal but its food for thought. I was doing 14 hours driving for the steel works. |
Now this is interesting.
Ian, what are the frequency ranges between being fully alert, sleep deprivation
(6Hz-12Hz I am assuming) and hallucination?
I would think that there may be a very fine line between lack of sleep and hallucination.
With your relaxation sessions before your events, have you recorded more incidents or have you noticed being
more in tune with your surroundings than without them?
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Iain Lawrence
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Delta- 0.5 to 3Hz Deep sleep
Theta- 4 to 7Hz Meditation, Dreaming
Alpha- 8 to 13 Hz Visualisation
Beta- 14Hz
hallucination is associated with high brain activity.
People have been reported to see anomilys at apparant haunted areas at high levels showing brain activity too.
But this does not appear as interesting to me and appears to show no association to other areas of anomily experience as an over all average.
Thanks for your interest. |
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Iain Lawrence
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:34 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, Beta 14Hz Awaik and active. |
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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:06 am Post subject: |
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It appears that it appears people who have actual visual interaction with energys seem to be within the 6Hz and 12Hz.
IAIN
How do we know this Iain?. I'd be interested to see where that information was gathered and by whom.
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Iain Lawrence
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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D.B Check out Wikipedia on the Hz and the rest is stated here..believe it or not is actualy my own observation !! yes....I think for myself and apply my research!!!
Am I wrong in saying that children are known to have invisible friends and see nanny sat on the end of the bed. Do elderly people not apparantly see more ghosts than younger people "they say anyway". I think its true to say that more energys are apparantly seen while people are tired and if you look into it, you will find that hallucinations are more often than not connected to higher than normal brain activity.
So lets look, thats between, 6 and 12Hz.
Its just an interesting observation...
If you do some positive research about it, id consider that too. Let me know ta.
JUST AN OBSERVATION...
Thats how theorys work, observe, research, use common scence, apply pre-required knowledge and produce a theory on which to build future observations.
World is flat? |
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Iain Lawrence
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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...and yes bitterbuck1 it has become apparant that not only do people appear to have more experiences, but we tend to record more light anomilys too. I wouldn't say that the anomilys recorded to media are paranormal, but would say that we record more of them since useing this technique. People report being more relaxed in the environments too,were as before it was a more fearfull response. not sure if thats relevant. Also most mediums use relaxation before apparant psychic sessions, now that could be relevant. |
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SpectralIllusion
Joined: 16 Dec 2009 Posts: 47 Location: Lincolnshire UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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There sounds like some interesting stuff going on there and all that without the help of Derek and Yvette as well! Makes you think what would have occurred if they had been present really. |
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Iain Lawrence
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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From what Ive seen of most haunted, there would be things flying about and screams, people being pushed ect. Im sterting to think yvette is a walking portal. I rather like Dereck actualy, he seems like a nice enough bloke. Shame he won't except anyone except personal friends on his facebook. Ner mind.
Thanks for looking in. |
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bitterbuck1 Moderator
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 3963 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Ian, I do agree with your statement that children to tend to have
invisible friends at a very young age.
My husband and I recently were babysitting our granddaughter who is 19 months old.
I put her down for the night and all was quiet for about an hour.
Then we hear her giggling and "talking".
I peaked into her room and there she was in full conversation with her stuffed monkey and talking at
what seemed to be an empty space next to her crib.
I do admit it gave me a bit of the goose flesh!
Apparently she has these nightly talks every night per our
daughter. |
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Iain Lawrence
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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There are several theorys over this, some say it could be young children in conversation with spirit, useing a language rememberd from before birth, (D.B that was a documentary I saw once). Another is that the child is self teaching speach and simply staring into a space in order to mimic interaction. Another is that its a way for a young child to keep from feeling alone. But all this is again theory as we don't know what the child is thinking and by the time the child is old enough to converse he or she has forgotten about it.
I find the fact that animals actualy interact with unseen things more interesting. But it does make you wonder if we loose particular abilitys at a young age. That would be a shame, but just another part of the society information inbedding process. If we don't need it, we loose it, in order to consentrate our attentions on things more nessesary for adult life and survival. But if psychic mediumship is to be believed, it would appear that not all children loose the ability and would give fire to the first theory in the selection above. There are people who have attempted to break down the language structure of children and who have found some conections there in and the basis to a language structure. But the same has been said about dogs and other animals, but who am I to say that dogs don't use a complex language structure or any other animal for that matter. The thought that spirits converse within another dimention using a form of language structure is not exceptable to me, I believe what ever we are dealing with, to be much more complicated than that.
Thankyou for your input. |
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bitterbuck1 Moderator
Joined: 18 Nov 2006 Posts: 3963 Location: Arizona, USA
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Ian, on the matter of seeing these so called "shadow people" while having little to no sleep. Are you playing with
the idea that we just may possibly be seeing something on a different plane of reality?
My co-workers and I tended to see the same two shapes of theses shadow people.
One shape is tall, slender and wearing what seems to be a hat (if that makes any sense at all) the other small, child like.
Maybe it's just mass hysteria so to speak. Either that or
there was something funny in our water jugs!
We all put it to lack of sleep, being overworked and the heat.
Any who, a very interesting subject. |
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