maltby private house investigation - real activity

Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

It of course could be down to the light, the shape of the room or objects there in, providing an effect of an anomily upon the prelifral area of the eye, which is more sensitive than the central vision. It could be many things. But shadom anomilys have been experienced by many people and generaly within the Hz mentioned. Without doing an indepth investigation of an environment it is hard to establish a well based theory. You could start taking notes of when and where, what time, state of mind and environmental conditions are presant. Then break it down to smaller areas in order to condence research. Then attempt to capture the phenomina upon media for observation. Then look into the history of the place and attempt to make conections to deaths or moments of great stress. (ghosts aren't always just of dead people). I understand you are hard at work when these things occure, so maybe set a bit of equipment about these areas on a break. You may well be suprised at the results.

bitterbuck1 · Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2010 7:44 pm Post subject:

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D B Sweeney · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:22 am Post subject:

Very interestings series of posts Iain. Thanks for sharing your theories. As usual Confused

I have a few issues with them and can't really let them go without providing a sceptical insight thus allowing people to decide with more information at their fingertips.

D.B Check out Wikipedia on the Hz and the rest is stated here..believe it or not is actualy my own observation !! yes....I think for myself and apply my research!!! IAIN

Hertz in relation to Wikipedia - They're referring to the audible frequencies Iain not visual frequencies:
An infant's ear is able to perceive frequencies ranging from 20 Hz to 20,000 Hz; the average human can hear sounds between 20 Hz and 16,000 Hz.
WKIPEDIA

Hertz in relation Wikipedia and the visible spectrum ie light:
Light is electromagnetic radiation that is even higher in frequency, and has frequencies in the range of tens (infrared) to thousands (ultraviolet) of terahertz. Electromagnetic radiation with frequencies in the low terahertz range, (intermediate between those of the highest normally usable radio frequencies and long-wave infrared light), is often called terahertz radiation. Even higher frequencies exist, such as that of gamma rays, which can be measured in exahertz. WIKIPEDIA

Many investigators use EMF detectors to search for Electromagnetic Fields because they think (as you seem to be suggesting with your Hertz theory) that intense magnetic fields can create hallucinations which in turn might create the illusion of ghosts.

It's an interesting theory, unfortunately it's just a theory not a proven effect. It is correct that hallucinations (such as Out of Body experiences) can be triggered by stimulating specific areas of the Brain with fixed wavelength patterns of High Level Electromagnetic Fields. However, this only happens with highly specific, controlled frequencies of waves carefully directed at specific parts of the Brain in clinical experiments.

Some questionable results were gathered by Neuroscience researcher Michael Persinger with his so called God Helmet which I find interesting and certainly even though the results were unable to be replicated by peer testing in some cases, I still think it is a hypothesis worth pursuing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_helmet

There are several theorys over this, some say it could be young children in conversation with spirit, useing a language rememberd from before birth IAIN

How can a baby remember a language from before it was born?. I know you saw it on a documentary Iain and this is a question not directed specifically at you but let's be realistic for a moment and just think where babies come from and how they are formed. Souls don't pop into clusters of cells at the moment of conception fully programmed with languages and memories from a previous life. Any molecular biologist or medical expert would laugh you out of the room if you tried to say this is anything other than pseudoscientific semi- religious spiritual mumbo jumbo.

Anyone in doubt about past lives and the transmigration of souls - go Google 'Bridey Murphy' to get an insight into the 'phenomenon'.
It's pure unfounded speculation with absolutely no medical, biological or scientific evidence to support it.

Animals - particularly dogs and cats 'seeing' the paranormal. IMO it's simply because they have better hearing, smell and in some cases vision that is better than our own. When a dog looks into the corner of a room for no reason it could be hearing sounds from outside coming from that direction. Why automatically jump to the conclusion that it's seeing a ghost when there are far far more logical reasons why it might look at a certain spot?. The dog appears to be barking irrationally To us when in actuality it might hear mice in the roofspace, Foxes fighting in the distance, another dog barking. Lot's of things we don't see, smell or hear cause animals to react - we make the error of humanising them and giving them human reasons to react when they're still very much functioning on instinct.

It of course could be down to the light, the shape of the room or objects there in, providing an effect of an anomily upon the prelifral area of the eye, which is more sensitive than the central vision. IAIN

Unfortunately quite the opposite is true.
Peripheral vision is weaker in humans, compared with other animals, especially at distinguishing color and shape.
WIKIPEDIA
The human eye has basically evolved to give us an effective aid to hunting, therefore the central area of the eye has the most Rods and Receptors enabling it to to see better than the white outer area.

Then look into the history of the place and attempt to make conections to deaths or moments of great stress.

I don't think researching the history of a haunted location is relevant. While the history of a location is interesting it almost always has little or nothing to do with the current haunting claims or phenomena. If for example a ghostly figure is reported in a stairwell, a spooky face is photographed in a bedroom or a mysterious noise is reported coming from the attic, knowing who built the place in 1928 (or the name of the little girl who died there ten years ago, or whether 200 people have dies thee over a 300 year history) is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with faces, light anomalies or noises, which must be investigated completely independently. The danger is that bias creeps in and incorrect links and correlations are made. Time spent researching a house's history is usually wasted unless there's some reason to think that a building's structure may be related to some specific unexplained phenomenon. For example, knowing when a house was built might give an indication of its construction materials and structural mechanics. This could help identify odd sounds resulting from a bygone era's plumbing and heating systems.

Keep up the good work. I enjoy reading you posts.

DB

Sources: Wikipedia
Scientific Paranormal Investigation : Benjamin Radford
The SkepticalInquirer Magazine
Pseudoscience and the Paranormal : Terence Hines
The Hundredth Monkey (and other paradigms of the Paranormal) : Kendrick Frazier

Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

D.B
1, Electromagnetic radiation is often described by its frequency—the number of oscillations of the perpendicular electric and magnetic fields per second—expressed in hertz.

2, Brain activity is measured in Hz and I made no conection to EMF during the theory and certainly no conection to EMF meters. We use Emf meters during investigations in order to systematicaly check the electromagnetic energy within the area we are investigating at the time, in comparison to an EMF map produced in advance of the investigation. Taking into consideration switchs etc. We do ask where the people who have experienced the anomilys, where they spend most of there time and check levels there, just to ensure that EMF has had no part to play in brain frequency contamination.

3, The central vision has a filter which removes things which the brain sees as un nessasary, It enables us to consentrate on the jobs at hand without our brains becomeing over run with surrounding information.A bit like when you drive around, you don't read all the advertising boards and look at all the people or you'd crash.
The prelifral vision does not have this filter which enables us to see much more interesting stuff, it is there probly from when we were hunters , so we could see if anything was sneaking up on us. Problem is we are generaly so involved with whats going on in front of us that we egnore prelifral information. But on occastion we catch something from the corner of our eye which gets through. interesting.
I was refering to information input ,not the ability to see in the dark.
Rods are cool, they utilise the given light and are connected to more sensitive nerves which boost the light input to the brain.

4, The research is important due to other reasearch that has been done were familys who have never mett and who have lived in a building for some time at different periods and who have not spoken to anyone who know of a haunting there, have all reported the same phenomena and have documented it and in turn moved out of the house because of it. This is of interest.
I do not do research an area in advance so as not to build up a belief structure in advance of an investigation.
and thankyou once again for your input.

Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

Very sorry bitterbuck1 I cannot remember the the program, it was some years ago..but after thinking about it, the thought that a baby would be able to produce a language through use of a human body, when we have to consider before birth theres a good chance it wouldn't have had one seem rather far fetched and to add to the confusion, why would a baby bother blubbering out rubbish from its new mouth when its mother can't understand it anyway. I think then its more a case of language training or playing at lets make noises. But saying that it is interesting that they stair in the same place while doing it? Who are thy blubbering at? and what are the animals stairing at. I wonder if theres a link between animal brain energy frequencys and baby brain energy frequencys( Im saying energy, because D.B has a problem with Hz lol) Sorry D.B. Laughing

During our lives we become psychicaly poluted by the mundane run of things and maybe we loose these abilitys, although it would appear in some cases not all of us do.

D B Sweeney · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:52 am Post subject:

Hi Iain

1. I'm not disputing that.

2. I don't have a problem with Hertz and I'm not disputing that Brain activity detected via EEG or MEG is measured in Hz. What I am discussing and indeed have an issue with is the theory that EMFs somehow interact with brain waves to produce paranormal activity such as ghost sightings and 'feelings of dread' etc.

3. As my quote illustrated and said - Peripheral vision is weaker than central vision. This is a fact. Because peripheral vision is weaker the brain tends to fill in information from this area of the eye based on past experience. I certainly agree that we sometimes see strange ghostly things 'out of the corner of the eye' such as shadows etc which we mistakenly attribute to the supernatural. This has nothing to do with peripheral vision being in any way superior or allowing us to see much more interesting stuff IMO.

4. I agree. If you could provide some specific examples I'd be very grateful. I agree it certainly is of interest and warrants further research and investigation.

Thanks for your response Iain. Your answers always make very informative and interesting reading.

DB

bitterbuck1 · Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:13 pm Post subject:

My sister's twin nieces had their own language until they were in first grade.
They always used their language when they spoke to one another.
With everyone else it was regular speech.
They still remember some of their words for things.

(I always did think they were a bit off) Rolling Eyes

Iain Lawrence · Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Posts: 419

Thanks for that D.B and I enjoy your input too.
This is a very interesting topic and one I will be looking into further.