Phoenix Lights

thecactus · Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland

if this was a military exercise what possible purpose would there be in hovering over a city in an aircraft with never before seen technology?

D B Sweeney · Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:47 am Post subject:

Agentscott · Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 1042 Location: Essex

Just pop the pheonix lights into Youtube, theres a far bit on there including the original footage.
Heres one and they appear to be hovering/flashing/pulsating just on the outscirts of the city by that mountain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymCmI-MvIeU&feature=related

It also reminds me of some NA*A footage where there is a simular type light display but in space.(not the teather incedent)

So what do you think they are then DB, if they are military hardware of some kind?

If they have this tech to do this then they definatly are not sharing it with the public. Ask them what it was and they will just dismiss it as nothing to do with them.
It's UFO's for sure.

D B Sweeney · Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:34 am Post subject:

The lights were way into the mountains not on the outskirts of the city - they just look that way on the footage.

I'm not saying conclusively that they're military flares etc - just that they're more likely to be man made than alien engineered.

Here's my good friend Ben Radfords analysis.

http://www.livescience.com/2483-mysterious-phoenix-lights-ufo-hoax.html

Here's another by Tony Ortega.

http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/08-05-21/#feature

DB

bitterbuck1 · Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:51 am Post subject:

thecactus · Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland

good story bitter Laughing

but Im still not convinced the Phoenix Lights was a military exercise

Agentscott · Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 1042 Location: Essex

If it was inocent military manevers the military would have explaned when the lights got all that attention and people began asking questions.

This looks to me to be quite far from that explanation, other then the lights there doesn't seem to be much else going on there during the maneuver, infact it was just the lights present and not a soul anywhere to be seen.
Hoaxers with balloons and flares. hmmmmm?
Good old ballooons again ey.

flossy · Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:23 pm Post subject:

oh bitter that could only happen to you Laughing

D B Sweeney · Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 2:52 pm Post subject:

You doubters have heard it from Bitter (who lives there and is most familar with the location, the military and the terrain). You've heard it from me, who's been there and seen the location first hand and you've seen the links provided but you still aren't convinced.

OK.

Give us your best evidence that it was space aliens...... Rolling Eyes

DB

Agentscott · Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 1042 Location: Essex

Evidence?
All the vids have been debunked long ago and all that remains is the vids, they speak for themselves for me.
That and my knolage of the movements aliens might make in those sphere type craft.

I suppose a full investigation would help to unearth the facts.

Questions like...
Do the military commonly do maneuvers like that with the lights?
Was there any other odd activities going on at that time.
Is there any other people/witnesses localy who think different.
Is there anything of interest at the mountain?
Was there any evidence of downed baloons or spent flares found?

Perhaps I will re-open it myself.

D B Sweeney · Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:27 pm Post subject:

Do the military commonly do maneuvers like that with the lights?
Yes

Was there any other odd activities going on at that time.
Depends what you class as odd activities. Chinese lanterns to you are UFO's. A cow dying and getting nibbled by Coyotes is alien mutilation etc etc. (no disrespect intended Agentscott).

Is there any other people/witnesses localy who think different.
Yes Bitter and loads more who shrugged it off. It's on;y because some gullible whackos filmed it and the news media saw a story to plug a quiet news period that this story ever got onto the international stage. I'll bet there's been tens of identical 'Pheonix lights' type sightings since then that have never made page 7 or above of their local press.

Is there anything of interest at the mountain?
Which mountain? The lights spanned a number of peaks?.

Was there any evidence of downed baloons or spent flares found?
Are you aware of the size of the area these lights were seen above and the difficulty of the terrain?. Jesus Agentscott, these were not lights seen above Gorton or the Snake Pass. This is Arizona - a big state with big spaces outside a massive sprawl like Phoenix. You could hide an airliner out there.

DB

Agentscott · Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 1042 Location: Essex

Very big, maybee big enough to hide a couple of UFO's!

You may well be able to tuck away the witnesses but I bet there are loads of beleivers who saw them too and they could all help prove this thing.
Mountains are of interest to ET's, it was even on the mainstream, 'danny diere, I beleive in UFO's' where he visited America, and spotted a UFO near a mountain with a group of beleivers. There are also many reports involving UFO's seen at mountains or near by so it may be worth finding out about the rocks ect or whats up there.

I can't say for sure but it looks like the classic sweep it away with some wishywashy explanations.

thecactus · Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0307/debunking.html

D B Sweeney · Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:56 am Post subject:

thecactus · Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland

D B Sweeney,