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willfromthehill



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:42 pm    Post subject: Smokey Presance Reply with quote

A few years ago me and my then wife moved into a terraced house in the high street of my local village. The house would have been around 150 year old and had steep 12 step staircase leading to a first landing where their was a bathroom and seperate toilet.From this landing their was another 5 steps to the 2 bedrooms. The reason i describe this part of the house is because some strange things happened in this area of the house.

The first thing we noticed was no matter what the weather. The house was always cold.My ex wife always said she felt uneasy in the house and would always go to stay at her parents when i was working nights rather than stay alone in the house.

One night we were lying in bed. Our bedroom door was open and from the bed i could see onto the landing. It was the first time that i noticed what i thought was smoke i can also remember the sulphar like smell. I jumped out of bed and ran onto the landing thinking their was a fire in the house.After checking right through the house i found no signs of a fire.

This same thing happened many more times each time the smoke appeared the same smell and each time no signs of fire.Then one night we were awakened by the sound of banging. It sounded like someone was hitting a metal pipe with a hammer.We listened for a few minutes and realised it was coming form the bathroom. We both went to the bathroom and the sound continued i even put my ear to the pipe and you could feel the vibration on the pipe.

Suprisinly i never fealt frightened at anytime and i can still recall all the events very clearly. This was in the early nineties so before the days of digital cameras and mobile phones so never got any photographic or sound recording evidence. I hope that someone on the site may have had similar experiances of Smokey presences that went bump in the night.
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

willfromthehill, hi and welcome to the forum

Intereting story - did the activity last long? It sounds to me like the spirit of someone who lived in the house before, there are a lot of possibilities like it wanted to get your attention, or possibily did not know they were dead and were working on the pipe - I would definitely say though that it was someone who lived in that house at some point - did you find out any history of previous residents?
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bitterbuck1
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A warm welcome to the World of Ghost Will!
Enjoy!
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Will, welcome to World of Ghosts,

I think there's probably a more logical explanation to your experiences than the supernatural but I can understand how it appears to be ghostly in nature.

DB
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flossy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi will welcome to the forum Wink
interesting story, did this happen the full time you lived in the house?
do you know who lives there now, it would be interesting to see if they are having simular experiences
DB, what do you suggest this could of been?
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flossy wrote:

DB, what do you suggest this could of been?


Firstly we're dealing with a house that's 150 years old so it's gonna have some creaks and odd noises like the aged bones of an old man. Any house will be affected by temperature changes which cause the expansion and contraction of the various materials used in it's construction. These, furthermore, will expand and contract at different rates so for example, wood will change at a different rate to metal or stone and will result in friction and inevitably some genuinely odd, unexplainable noises.
In hot weather, the sun on one side of a house will cause that side of the house to heat more rapidly than the cooler side and at night, the cooling down can similarly be more rapid on one side than the other. Noises are far more common in the night when the most rapid change in temperature occurs.
In this case we don't yet know whether the house has central heating, how old the plumbing system is or what type or the condition and internal fittings of the properties that adjoin Will's terraced house.
For example - the sound of the banging metal pipe in the bathroom could be just that - Pipes can make strange noises (I've heard them many times). Trapped air pockets, pressure differentials and the expansion or contraction of metal that is subject to sudden temperature increases (or decreases) can make quite loud noises which are amplified more during the night because the plumbing acts as a transmitter.
Older houses are much more common sites for unexplained noises, cold spots and even odd smells. We also have rodents and outside mammals such as birds and squirrels to consider as potential sources of strange noises.
Terraced houses, particularly the older ones will be constructed to different standards in terms of plumbing and shared partitions so it is not inconceivable that noises and smells from other properties will carry during the night and mysteriously appear and disappear. I lived in old terraced houses for about ten years and have experienced nearly all the phenomenon Will mentions apart from seeing smoke that was not caused by me burning food Confused .
Feelings of uneasiness and dread are very common in many properties but are highly subjective and physiological/psychological rather than supernatural. I'm not sure about the smoke but this may be a hypnogogic or hypnopompic experience or caused by something that has not been identified or considered.
Finally we must bare in mind that the events Will described happened nearly 20 years ago and will inevitably subject to the reconstructive process of the human memory which I've discussed many times in relation to anecdotal evidence.
If Will wants to provide more detail I'm sure our members will offer more advice and comment.

Smile

DB
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willfromthehill



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello everyone thanks for the welcome and your replies to my post. I have lived in several older houses over the years and know the differance between creaky old floor boards and pipes affected by the weather. The banging on the pipes was that of metal on metal as if being hit with a hammer and i traced the exact point of the sound and even put my ear to the pipe .The house has a history of short residenacy noone stays their too long. I spoke to a person who lived in the house after me he said that he was thrown off the couch one night. Wether he was just saying this because i brought up the haunted issue i dont know.
But i was told that the house next door also had activity. This house is empty at the momment with metal shutters on the windows.At the time i lived in the house an elderly woman lived in that house.
I did have other experiances which i put down to sleep apnia after research.But the smoke and the banging noises can not be put down to wear and tear of an old house.The house had bottled gas central heating with a combi boiler in the back bedroom which oftenly broke down.Had it been coal or coke central heating i could have said it was a build up of smoke from the fire. Although i have never seen smoke move in one direction then move in the opposite direction without the help of a breeze.
I never felt ill at ease in the house although my ex wife did.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for adding to your post Will Smile

Are you saying the banging was coming from the pipe at the exact point you had your ear to it?. Rental houses have long residencies and short residencies - that's the nature of rentals - they reflect human relationships and human behaviour in all it's many forms so nothing unusual in that IMO. The person who said they were thrown off the couch - evidentially unsupportable, could have been drunk, on drugs (when it happened), just trying to wind you up or any one of many other reasons. I think you're right with your explanation that these experiences were sleep artifacts. Going back to the smoke - this was a long time ago and I still suggest your recollection of these events is distorted and coloured by the ways our memory works.
Here's a link that will explain it in more detail:

http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/362/1481/773.full

Despite my sceptical stance, thanks for posting your experiences Will, they must have been quite unnerving at the time. I've had similar that I thought was spirits/supernatural at the time.

DB
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willfromthehill



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply DB the house in question was private house. It is situated in a row of 7 dwellings including at the time 3 shops. All the dwellings had individual internal pipe work.I dont think i have a distorted recolection regarding the smoke. These events happened on numerous occassions and like certain events in your life some things you have vague memmories. But others you can recall as if it were yesterday in the case of the smoke i can picture and still recollect the smell. Its not the sort of thing you would forget easy.I must agree with you about the banging noises though i only heard the banging once so your theory about recollection could apply there.
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi willfromthehill,
Well that was an interesting story there. sounds like a basic haunting to me. Ive seen and read about smokey entities before and that is supposedly the spirit manifesting itself, usually they would revel themselves as lights or perhaps an orb but smoke is the other option.
Oh and I cant imagin a self banging pipe???nor a smell that only turns up when a spirit is about.

Ever heard the phrase...theres no smoke without fire.
Not trying to scare you will but I think that you discribe well the classic haunted house. Very Happy
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well someone being thrown off the couch - that would suggest it was an intelligent haunting, and most likely the entity wanted you/s out of the house, also your wifes unnerving feeling would support that.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

willfromthehill wrote:
Thanks for your reply DB the house in question was private house. It is situated in a row of 7 dwellings including at the time 3 shops. All the dwellings had individual internal pipe work.I dont think i have a distorted recolection regarding the smoke. These events happened on numerous occassions and like certain events in your life some things you have vague memmories. But others you can recall as if it were yesterday in the case of the smoke i can picture and still recollect the smell. Its not the sort of thing you would forget easy.I must agree with you about the banging noises though i only heard the banging once so your theory about recollection could apply there.


I'm suggesting your recollection of the events MAY be incorrect. My suggestion is supported by scientific and psychological research which is why I posted the link. If you explore the forum you'll see that I expand on this in a number of posts - again based on solid, verifiable, empirical research by professionals and academics.
HUman memory is not perfect - the longer between events happening and the events being told and re-told then the more errors and reconstructions of those events creep in.
That's all I'm saying.

DB
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
Well someone being thrown off the couch - that would suggest it was an intelligent haunting, and most likely the entity wanted you/s out of the house, also your wifes unnerving feeling would support that.


I used to stay in an old 200 year old Farmhouse as a lodger with several friends. We had guests and others thrown off sofas and covers pulled off them - usually on Friday nights after coming back from the Pub and them being told that the house was haunted by me (it wasn't) and that they might get thrown off sofas or covers pulled off them. Shocked

DB
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paranormal pranker DB?
That could be on Rudetube. Laughing
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
Paranormal pranker DB?
That could be on Rudetube. Laughing


No Agentscott - just the power of suggestion. Plant an expectation , the imagination will follow and make it real.

DB
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