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Agentscott



Joined: 08 Feb 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:09 am    Post subject: Strange lights Reply with quote

Hi there all,
I'm new in here so hi to all again, cool forum.

Quite commonly in the house I see a strange light, I only see it in areas that are unlit and it only appears when you least expect it. I have never thought to myself "will I see it" and then seen it.

It's like a long prolonged flash that kind of swirls slowly and very bright blue/green or green sometimes, it seems to emit its own light somehow but this light comes from nowhere.(not like one off those static ball things though, far brighter and weirder)

origanly when it first started up was about two and a half years ago and in that first year I had seen it five times and that was just me. Other family members were also spotting it severall times in the first year so it's not just me imagining it.

One nigh the light appeared at my feet when I was on the way out of the bathroom at night and swirled suprising me and nearly sending me down the stairs as I tried not to step on it.

Commonly I have seen it on the floor by the boiler, on the landing at the top of stairs, by the fuse box and now actually on the stairs.

After the first year it stoped for roughly another year but in the last six month ish or so it's back and just the other night got me once again when I was heading upstairs.
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flossy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi Agentscott, welcome to the forums Wink

if this light appears in the same place, roughly, why dont you set a camcorder up and try to catch it on tape, at least then you could show people and try and get there views on it Wink
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there Flossy,
Well I have considered that but can't affoard a camera just yet. I have a freind who is away and he has one and i'm sure he will lend it to me when he is back.

When I get one in the near future I will definatly try.

At first I thought it may be something electronic as there is a plug at the top of the landing but a plug with electricity on the outside? hmmm

Its usually 2-3 seconds and if I get it on camera, it will be exiting.

I was kind of hoping others may well have something simular.
I must admit though I rekkon its supernatural alright, not sure if its a ghost or something else though.

Have you ever heard of anything simular?
P.s The house is old but it's no big haunted mansion, just a semi detached on a old street.
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flossy
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive seen swirly type lights in pictures but not seen any with my own eyes Confused
im not sure what it could be?
is there anything else that happens in the house that makes you believe it might be a ghost/spirit

im sure some of our members might have some clues on what it could be, deff a strange one
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carlos2010



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could be an electrical fault judging by the locations youve named, not sure if your boiler is gas or electric, but youve seen it by the fuse box and at the top of the stairs where you said there was a plug socket.

If you have an electricians screwdriver(the one with the metal ended handle and the bulb in the clear plastic), and touch the tip to live(i think?), and hold your thumb or finger on the metal end and place your other hand flat on a wall, the bulb will glow showing power to ground.

Im not saying to try it as im not exactly sure if touching to live is right as ive not used one for years, and im not saying your a light bulb either, but its a possibility of an electrical fault some where.

Do you have shoes on when you see it? or are you bare foot or wearing socks?

Try going bare foot, and then wear shoes/trainers and see if it appears more commonly with one or the other.
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Inn Spectre



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carlos2010 wrote:

If you have an electricians screwdriver(the one with the metal ended handle and the bulb in the clear plastic), and touch the tip to live(i think?), and hold your thumb or finger on the metal end and place your other hand flat on a wall, the bulb will glow showing power to ground.

Utter nonsense. If you poke the tester into the live terminal (or any live conductor) and just touch the end of the handle, then the neon will light even if you're touching nothing else and wearing rubber boots. Any change you may observe when touching a wall proves nothing, much less that there's any kind of fault in the installation.
Stop peddling nonsensical advice.
For my part I can't conceive of any type of electrical fault that would cause what has been described, and it would be a pretty neat trick to simulate.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Agentscott,

Certainly sounds like an anomaly of some kind. When you mentioned that other family members had seen it I'd like to ask how many members and how many times?. Also have you seen it more than anyone else?.
There is the psychological phenomenon called Folie a deux, a french expression meaning 'folly of two', where a witness convinces (with no deception involved) one or more people of some occurrence to the extent that for various reasons they begin to experience the phenomenon. On a larger scale this suggestion can result in what is termed contagion.
Another possibility to consider, applying the principle of Occam's Razor, is that this is a light effect caused by either an internal or an external light source that has not been considered or identified at this stage. It may be due to faulty electrics that only malfunction sporadically or it may be something unusual and rare but ultimately not necessarily supernatural in nature.
Alternatively there may be an issue with eyesight and undiagnosed (or unrealised) eye conditions. A variety of eye conditions can manifest as lights, blurs or flashes and if this is combined with the Folie a deux phenomenon or some slight degree of it, it may well be another potential explanation.
One other possible explanation is that this is indeed some kind of perinormal phenomenon but given the overwhelming evidence (or lack of it) that spirits come back and appear as lights of various kinds this seems the least likely conclusion.

Please keep us informed of any developments Agentscott and try to implement the suggestion Flossy made. I look forward to our other members commenting further on this interesting post.

DB
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Agentscott



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there all,
Thanks for the suggestions.
I will have axis to a camera soon and i'm quite keen to hopefully get some footage.

My family have seen it quite a few times, when I mentioned to them first my mums reply was yes I keep seeing that(about 6 times for my mum) and then my dad agreed that he too has seen it (4 times) so I don't think this could be Folie a deux.
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I have seen it 4-5 times total so it looks likewe have all had roughly the same with my mum in the lead a little.

Thats not all though, we also keep a small saucepan on the microwave. A microwave that hardly gets used and is out of the way. Every night I see the handle is hanging off the front and being a tidying sort of person, to make sure it does not drop off completely I turn it so the handle is resting on top of the microwave. The tops perfectly flat and even and every morning I see the sauce panhandle is back hanging over the edge again.

Recently it crossed my mind as odd too.
Another one to try and film.

there have been a couple of other things to in the further away past, A ball of light with a purpose spotted twice and an exploding glass.

P.s Amnother thought I had was lazers but I ruled those out too because of curtins closed and bad angles and light not being able to bend.

I actually bought a green lazer to test and see if the effect was possible. It was not.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some footage would be very useful Agentscott, it may take time but it'll be worth it.

DB
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carlos2010



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inn Spectre wrote:
Utter nonsense.


Thats your opinion and your welcome to it!
I used the electricians screw driver as an example.

Inn Spectre wrote:
Stop peddling nonsensical advice.


Id hardly class my self as "peddling nonsensical advice"
merely offering a possible cause as the locations appear to be near electrical outlets. Which I dont think is to unreasonable.
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Inn Spectre



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

carlos2010 wrote:
Inn Spectre wrote:
Utter nonsense.


Thats your opinion and your welcome to it!
I used the electricians screw driver as an example.

An example of what except that you don't know what you're saying?
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If you have an electricians screwdriver(the one with the metal ended handle and the bulb in the clear plastic), and touch the tip to live(i think?), and hold your thumb or finger on the metal end and place your other hand flat on a wall, the bulb will glow showing power to ground.

What is that supposed to mean? FYI the neon will light just by touching the tip of the handle, even if you're touching nothing else and jumping off the ground at the time. Either way it's not a test of an electrical installation's integrity.

Touching the wall is the correct method for using a metal/pipe detector.

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Id hardly class my self as "peddling nonsensical advice"
merely offering a possible cause as the locations appear to be near electrical outlets. Which I dont think is to unreasonable.

Unless you're in the bathroom or on the stairs (as cited) that will pretty much always be true.

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carlos2010



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Inn Spectre"]An example of what except that you don't know what you're saying[quote]

I know exactly what im saying, perhaps your reading too much into things, or maybe its down to the fact that you werent held enough as a child and felt unloved which has led to a tendancy to ridicule other people and as such, veer off topic, like I said, your entitled to your opinion, and I will retort, how ever many times it may take until you accept it was a loose example and not an explanation.

You appear to gain strength by ridicule, perhaps you get a kick by appearing clever, I couldnt care less if my english is less english than french, but the links for avoiding bad english are a little uncalled for, seeing as this appears to be a rather relaxed forum, where every persons opinion is welcome(?), If I was to think something was utter bull, It would be known, but i certainly wouldnt insult the person further by advising them on english lessons.

You seem to be a very sad and weak person. I suggest you resolve your issues and leave them in your personal life, not bring them out onto other people or into forums.
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott, I would definately set up a camera on that microwave with the saucepan Shocked
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