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D B Sweeney
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My thoughts exactly Alex. Von Danikens ideas require an enormous stretch of the imagination and as Alex has said he's been discredited time and time again with his theories about ancient astronauts.
Who is that that's 'fully controlling the mainstream' and why?.
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ALEX LOCKWOOD
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D B Sweeney
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LOL, we agree on some things but disagree on others. NOthing wrong with that IMO 
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ALEX LOCKWOOD
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| Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 6:39 am Post subject: |
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| D B Sweeney wrote: | | LOL, we agree on some things but disagree on others. Nothing wrong with that IMO :grin:DB |
That's what debates are all about, DB. Agreeing to disagree   |
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Agentscott
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Quite the expert ten Alex, where did you find out what the lines are for?, it seems more likley that they were some kind of pattern intended to be veiwed from above, if they were paths why would they have to calve them out, couldn't they just walk.
Who was it who discredited him? someone mainstream?
I also don't think that they are being discredited by mentioning ET help, that still makes them quite amazing and they still acheived their feat ET or not, they probobly were much more knolagable than use modern people and if they were in contact with life in general and aliens then they really were streets ahead. |
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D B Sweeney
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it seems more likley that they were some kind of pattern intended to be veiwed from above, if they were paths why would they have to calve them out, couldn't they just walk.
Quite correct but viewed from nearby peaks not alien spaceships.
'Above' has several definitions depending on your perspective.
These patterns are inherently tied up to their religious beliefs, the sun rising, the moon and the stars. I think you're getting your info on these from a bad source Agentscott.
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Agentscott
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Just too be clear, i'm not fully saying that ET's were anything to do with ancient life, I have just heard a little on Von dankien and a few mainstream documentrys on the ancients and it's something that I don't strongly beleive.
Perhaps they did but maybee they didn't, so i'm agreeing with you here DB in that they are to be veiwed from above but I would say in their own flying machines, perhaps balloons, question is who taught them that?
Regarding the egyptions, I don't buy that they moved those rocks with just manpower. |
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D B Sweeney
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Regarding the egyptions, I don't buy that they moved those rocks with just manpower.
I think you'll find that they did.
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ALEX LOCKWOOD
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DB: "I think you'll find that they did."
I'm with you on this one DB. Look at Ancient Egyptian reliefs, Agentscott. They show how Egyptians moved heavy stone objects, particularly statues. You show me a crashed Ancient Egyptian plane or balloon. Let alone a UFO. And you'll have written history...
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ALEX LOCKWOOD
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"Quite correct but viewed from nearby peaks not alien spaceships.
'Above' has several definitions depending on your perspective.
These patterns are inherently tied up to their religious beliefs, the sun rising, the moon and the stars. I think you're getting your info on these from a bad source Agentscott."
Not all of the patterns are on the Nazca plain, Agentscott. Some are geometric shapes and lines that run for a fair distance. From what I've read, seen on TV, and discussed with people who have been there, "religious beliefs" are the most logical reason for their existence. Connected to the cosmos, but also the elements. Look at the vast array of deities ancient civilsations had covering all aspects of their lives. And the variety of sacrifices made to them.
Think how little rain Nazca gets, Agentscott. The Native Americans [north and central] had ceremonies concerning water, a precious resource, without which life cannot flourish. While the Aztec capital was on a series of man-made islands and canals on a lake. With a carefully controlled water system. |
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ALEX LOCKWOOD
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| D B Sweeney wrote: | I think you'll find that they did.
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In my own library I have three books just on the pyramids. The best, I think, is by Miroslav Verner [2002], as its the most thorough. But all of them have cut-away sections of some of the pyramids, showing their construction. Although there are variants, the main one used shows that the Egyptians built outwards as well as upwards. So that the building has a layered appearance vertically - the pyramids of Huni, Sekhemkhet, and Khaba show this clearly. Those of Djoser and Menkaure were enlarged, the former effectively doubled in size. The Egyptians were able to do this because the pyramids were basically mastabas ['table-like' tombs] stacked on top of each other.
The Toltecs? [at Technoctitlan] and Aztecs [at Technoctitlan, destroyed by the Conquistadors, and replaced by Mexico City] simply built over pre-existing structures. Time Life's Aztecs: Reign of Blood and Splendour, pgs 110-111 has a brilliant diagram showing the successive building phases of the Aztec Templo Mayor. It looks like Russian Dolls!
Likewise, Schliemann, Dorpfield, and later excavations at the Mound of Hissarlik, Turkey, show Troy was literally built upon earlier cities.
So you see Agentcott and Cactus, ET wasn't needed after all. The Egyptians, like the Aztecs and Trojans, managed perfectly fine by themselves There's no 'mystery' at all. |
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Agentscott
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Mainstream books?
I'd love to find out the weight of those blocks and then the average force a human can pull and work out the force needed to move them and then prove it all wrong.
Numbers give me numbers....and a maths expert. |
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SHADOWDANCER
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Boy, this obsession with Mainstream! I'll have to get my Canoeing Gear in a moment. And paddle like crazy
Didn't Hancock climb the Great Pyramid? I'm sure I saw him doing this on some prog. And said that the Lighter Blocks were towards the bottom [2-5 tons?], and the Heavier Ones [10-15 tons?] higher up? As though it was built 'upside-down'. And they aren't cemented together, are they? Curious indeed. But I don't credit those nutty Theories that say they were Flown or Levitated into position. I bet the Dead Weight was to to stop them Taking Off again!  Which reminds me. I've got to shake the sand out of my Flying Carpet...
Love the new Avatar, btw, Agentscott
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Agentscott
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