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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:07 pm    Post subject: The paradox of the dead. Reply with quote

Why do the dead have to ask questions of the living via a third party that often asks for payment in order to tell the living about mostly trivial details they already know?.

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flossy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

isnt that usually the other way round Confused
the living asking questions from the dead?
the payment side of it is unfortunate, some do make a lot of money out of it
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flossy wrote:
isnt that usually the other way round Confused
the living asking questions from the dead?
the payment side of it is unfortunate, some do make a lot of money out of it


Example:

Medium: He's showing me a red coat, what's the significance of a red coat?.
Sitter: That was his favourite coat, his red leather jacket.
Medium: Yes, that's what he's telling me.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my turn for wikipedia Smile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_reading

and people wounder why we need proof, there are so many out there who use this
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thecactus



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D B Sweeney wrote:
flossy wrote:
isnt that usually the other way round Confused
the living asking questions from the dead?
the payment side of it is unfortunate, some do make a lot of money out of it


Example:

Medium: He's showing me a red coat, what's the significance of a red coat?.
Sitter: That was his favourite coat, his red leather jacket.
Medium: Yes, that's what he's telling me.

DB


But that is not the dead asking the question.
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Sharla Tann



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: The paradox of the dead. Reply with quote

D B Sweeney wrote:
Why do the dead have to ask questions of the living via a third party that often asks for payment in order to tell the living about mostly trivial details they already know?

Have you ever been approached by someone purporting to have a message or question for you from a deceased person?
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
D B Sweeney wrote:
flossy wrote:
isnt that usually the other way round Confused
the living asking questions from the dead?
the payment side of it is unfortunate, some do make a lot of money out of it


Example:

Medium: He's showing me a red coat, what's the significance of a red coat?.
Sitter: That was his favourite coat, his red leather jacket.
Medium: Yes, that's what he's telling me.

DB


It's a hypothetical Cactus based on the methods of the bogus mediums. By showing the red coat the 'dead person' is wanting the sitter to verify the connection to himself.

DB

But that is not the dead asking the question.
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feebs



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

we are not all like that and i for one do not ask questions i give what i am told and if you cant take it i leave it and move on to some other point the spirit are telling me as it can be that i am interpreting it wrong and they manage to show me in a better way during the reading, there are so many out there who have become very wealthy and this i see as wrong as charging the amount they do is not right as people who cant afford it dont get the help just because they have no money , i only ask for petrol money if asked to go anywhere far from me as i am a mum of 4 who has little income and i dont drive so have to ask a friend to take me..all the readings i do i will do of my free time and is no one ever told no they cant have a reading for not being able to pay my petrol .

i hate to see the mediums of today ask stupid questions in a reading as it makes us all look stupid and there is no need for it .

i link in asking spirit to show me something the person can accept and i go from there..evidence first is my rule and if i get nothing then im honest i get nothing .
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: The paradox of the dead. Reply with quote

Sharla Tann wrote:
D B Sweeney wrote:
Why do the dead have to ask questions of the living via a third party that often asks for payment in order to tell the living about mostly trivial details they already know?

Have you ever been approached by someone purporting to have a message or question for you from a deceased person?

No but I've put myself in situations where that was a distinct possibility.

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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

feebs wrote:

i link in asking spirit to show me something the person can accept and i go from there..evidence first is my rule and if i get nothing then im honest i get nothing .

Thanks for that Feebs.
What kinds of things do you say and what kind of things do spirits show you?.

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Sharla Tann



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: The paradox of the dead. Reply with quote

D B Sweeney wrote:

No but I've put myself in situations where that was a distinct possibility.

In order to be able to debunk the process, I'm surprised you didn't let it happen.
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:54 am    Post subject: Re: The paradox of the dead. Reply with quote

Sharla Tann wrote:
D B Sweeney wrote:

No but I've put myself in situations where that was a distinct possibility.

In order to be able to debunk the process, I'm surprised you didn't let it happen.


No not to debunk. I don't debunk. When I attended spiritualist church meetings and group readings by mediums I was more a believer than a sceptic.

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Sharla Tann



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:58 am    Post subject: Re: The paradox of the dead. Reply with quote

D B Sweeney wrote:

No not to debunk. I don't debunk.

Oh I see - I wonder what made me think that?
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: The paradox of the dead. Reply with quote

Sharla Tann wrote:
D B Sweeney wrote:

No not to debunk. I don't debunk.

Oh I see - I wonder what made me think that?

Maybe you don't know the difference between a debunker and a sceptic? Confused

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Sharla Tann



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: The paradox of the dead. Reply with quote

D B Sweeney wrote:

Maybe you don't know the difference between a debunker and a sceptic?

I see a sceptic as one who debunks to their own satisfaction but remains silent.
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