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What is a "Spirit"?
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thewoomachine



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

heres an answer from my site that may be in line with what you may be thinking solstice .

A very popular theory is that they are made up of the natural electromagnetic energy that the human body has inside itself. This theory is popular because very often during ghost hunts in haunted places and other places of paranormal phenomena, EMF readings that are unexplainable and erratic are caught on EMF detectors. You may be wondering what else a ghost may be made up of besides EMFs.

Well, one man thought that the human soul is made up of something that holds a little more weight. Duncan McDougall tried to prove that the human soul was actually made up of some kind of mass. He performed an experiment with five dying patients by weighing them before and after their death. He found that their bodies actually hat lost a couple of ounces after those patients had died. It seems that there may be more to the soul than just EMFs but what exactly is it? This we may not ever know.
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bitterbuck1
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A loss of 21 grams after death per Duncan McDougall.
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YB
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool... 21 grams eh.. wonder if I should go on a "soul diet" Laughing Laughing
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twinks



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wouldnt that be the air in our lungs?
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Solstice Moon



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

21 grams seems a bit high for a soul mass, so I'd guess there are other reasons for the weight loss. I'll have to find a more practical way of proving my theory than just weighing people
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Kaz



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is really interesting. I'm trying to rack my brains regarding the weight loss. The only thing I wondered is (TMI) that when we die, we are supposed to excrete body fluids, could this be the weight loss?
Do you know how long after death the bodies were weighed?
Any links regarding this experiment would be much appreciated Smile
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bitterbuck1
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can google Duncan McDougall and it explains in detail how he came up with the 21 grams.

Has anyone seen the movie 21 Grams with Sean Penn?
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bitterbuck1
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaz,
I found this site which had a little more information on Dr. Duncan McDougall's work.
Cut and paste the link below.


http://www.snopes.com/religion/soulweight.asp

It is an interesting read. Very Happy


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Kaz



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks BB Smile

edit: I'll check link later as I can't cut and paste on this phone! (it's a good phone, but not that good! Wink )


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bitterbuck1
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaz wrote:
Thanks BB Smile


Your quite welcome.
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astralsearch



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my encounters with spirit I along with my team belive that in simple words a ghost is a playback of a past event this is why many ghosts do not and cannott interact with the living as they are just a image been playback from the past.

A spirit is the part of a living being or animalthat survives after life and contiues on in a new form, this is why they can intract with the living if they chose to.
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twinks



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

astralsearch i like your theory. fits into my head quite nicely that does.
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thewoomachine



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats practically what i said in my original post here astralsearch xxx
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YB
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically a "ghost" is a residual haunting and a "spirit" is a intelligent's haunting..
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Solstice Moon



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YB wrote:
Basically a "ghost" is a residual haunting and a "spirit" is a intelligent's haunting..


I don't disagree with that, what i was after with my original post though was more of a "what is a spirit made of" Seems that Dr McDougal had a similar idea, though 21 grammes does seem quite heavy
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