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Angelwings



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:01 pm    Post subject: could this be astral travel Reply with quote

(this post is a few months old now)

I am so excited today,two nights ago i had a very similar experience to my old sleep paralysis,which took me by suprise .When i say similar,i didnt have the normal paralysis but experienced the same feelings,the buzzy staticy electric feeling that i quite enjoyed,lol

i didnt say anything to anyone barr my hubby.as previous to this i had been made aware of someone in the bedroom,although i didnt look i could hear shuffling around,then as if footsteps walked out of the doorway and into the upstairs hallway,i can hand on my hear and say i know it wsnt either of the little ones getting up through the night.

so last night i went to bed pretty late,and the same happened..awareness of not being alone,i eventually went to sleep and woke up literally sweating,so adjusted my covers and pillow and tried to get back to sleep..WELL !!!

I hadnt been lying there long,and i felt the most overpowering tingly feeling within my whole body..i wasnt frightened to say the least,and i could move !!
one of the first things that came into my head was this is not another spirit,THIS IS FOR ME !!

i tried to relax myself and enjoy this feeling,allthough i knew it wasnt normal,i wasnt afraid....as this sensation enveloped me it intensified by a thousand,and just then i actually felt myself DETATCH ...i cant even begin to tell you what i mean by this,but i know i to some extent I drifted from my body even though only a few inches.I WAS LIKE WOW,then panic stepped in as i was aware of what was happening the whole time,and for a split second i thought,im not ready for this,what happenes if i cant come back,or i dont know how to do it,PMSL....(logical thinking you see) and as if whoever was guiding me knew my fears i could feel getting closer to myself again..and there i was back as normal..

I WAS SO EXCITED,BUT FEAR TOOK HOLD OF ME AND STOPPED WHATEVER THE EXPERIENCE WAS GOING TO BE..WHICH THIS MORNING I COULD KICK MYSELF FOR..BUT WHEN IT WAS HAPPENING,I WAS SO UNSURE,AND FOUGHT AS I DIDNT WANT TO TAKE THE RISK....

I truly belive that if i had let this flow i either would have had a out of body experience (which is less likely between the two) or more importantly MY FIRST EVER AKNOWLEDGABLE ASTRAL TRAVEL...

sounds so bizzare,but i cant wait for bedtime tonight !!!!
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bitterbuck1
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you had any more of these experiences Angel?

You mentioned the concern of not being able to come back.
Do you mean the chance of not being able to return to your body?
Can that happen?

This sounds so interesting.
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mrx3010



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey I made it back finally :)

"and for a split second i thought,im not ready for this"

This is where you decided to end the experience, you must have a CLEAR INTENT" if you waver for any time the experiene will end and usually in a "snap back" which literally feels like someone pulls you down into your body as fast as thought. This results in hightened resperation most of the time.

"I truly belive that if i had let this flow i either would have had a out of body experience (which is less likely between the two) or more importantly MY FIRST EVER AKNOWLEDGABLE ASTRAL TRAVEL..."

One and the same just different names and belief systems to guide the experiencer as the OBE is in my opinion a part of human conciousness and therefore a tool that we do not use or can not use yet. Just be careful if you are not ready it can be a shock to find what is on the other side (even if you are ready the result can be the same).

Take care.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just be careful if you are not ready it can be a shock to find what is on the other side (even if you are ready the result can be the same)
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Exactly what is or can be on the other side?
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mrx3010



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can tell you only this much what I know first hand from my own experiences and from listening to others who have had similar experiences is that there seems to be another reality of existence bordering our seen world populated by beings that are not quite physical. I personally don't think they like us humans trying to make contact with there reality at times and I believe they can bar us from entry if they so wish. I also think that it may be bleeds into this reality that are mistaken for some ghost and alien sightings. It's all speculation and nothing more, but it seems plausible in light of evidence.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a difference between "out of body experience" and "astral travel"?
If so, what are the differences?

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mrx3010



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion the terminology and belief systems are the only thing that separate the two. You will see the same thing with NDE and OBEs they are the same just induced differently.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can tell you only this much what I know first hand from my own experiences and from listening to others who have had similar experiences is that there seems to be another reality of existence bordering our seen world populated by beings that are not quite physical.


Would you be willing to share what you have experienced or know of this other existence?

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I also think that it may be bleeds into this reality that are mistaken for some ghost and alien sightings. It's all speculation and nothing more, but it seems plausible in light of evidence.


You really got my attention on this statement.
I have a question but I think it may be answered above.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To make a long story short, my first OBE occurred after I created a self inducing tape with a looped message that reaffirmed the belief there was no fear or anxiety etc. This is important as the mind will not allow the experience if there is fear etc, and if the experiencer were to accidentally enter a lucid dream state the nightmare would be unreal. I quickly induced one in which I materialized in a location I had not yet been to, in several days I would actually be in that location and confirm several items I saw in the experience. This was exciting and I had to experiment more. I came up with different induction methods, I read every book I could find on the phenomena. In time I began to gain more and more control in the second body and began to explore the world. The world was interesting in that everything was lit by pale light almost like right before a bad thunderstorm but not quite as bright, also there was that sound. The buzzing whining sound that signaled the start of the separation, it would last at times through the experience.
Eventually I would begin to have what I called SOBEs Spontaneous Out of Body Experiences. These were not induced and would start as I entered the deep relaxation. They would become almost annoying the sound would begin and eventually a violent shaking (not physical) would travel up my body to my head and I would be out side. I would notice on several of these occasions that I was not alone. This was my room but the light was dimmer now and there were humanoid dark shadowy entities about. This triggered a sensation of fear and I would snap back into by body in an almost shock like state.
Later I would hear about a project called "Stargate" not the movie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project

After learning about this project I found the methodology used and began to experiment with this, I would learn that there is indeed another existence bordering our own and that I was not ready to communicate with that existence yet. I was then banned from re-entry. When I first had OBEs traveling through physical matter was mostly easy but after this it was impossible. I now no longer practice out of respect not fear, but also because the research did cause great stress in my life and I have since moved on settled down and tend to leave these things to others to answer. In short I found my answers and that's what I set out to do decades ago :)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would assume, it cannot be astral travel until you actually travel, however you should be careful as to what the tingling sensations are. Have you been under any above average stress as of late:?:

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mrx3010



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The vibrations tingling etc are all quite normal in SOBEs. All medical research so far reveals almost nothing unususl apart from heightened brain activity. My experiences were years ago I don't mess with it anymore, but from personal experience I believe something is going on which science is having a hard time validating and an even harder time understanding.
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