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flossy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive only seen lanterns on video as not done any myself YET Wink
but these def dont look like what ive seen up to now
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bitterbuck1
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

D B Sweeney wrote:
The Phoenix lights have had rational explanations put forward that IMO explains what was seen. I've been to Phoenix twice - and know the area quite well and am aware of the nearby military installations and the frequent exercises that are carried out.

DB



I don't believe the lights were aliens (UFO yes but not an alien manned). If they were why didn't they
stop for a beer and hot wings?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
bitterbuck1, do you know anyone who did witness them?


Nope, but they were shown on the news for awhile and talked about.
I may be mistaken....I thought I heard they were seen as far as Flagstaff and followed I17
(the interstate that runs north and south) down to Phoenix.

No one was beamed up or missing time as they say.

If it were aliens and they were that bold to be seen why didn't they land at Sky Harbor Airport
or one of the military bases? Rolling Eyes
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe they just fly around our skies with all their lights on full beam so that
everyone can see them but don't actually land or do anything other than fly around with no rhyme or reason Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott, This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by David Almond.
Sorry about that

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bitterbuck1, how do you know they werent aliens?

you must regret not going outside that night? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
bitterbuck1, how do you know they werent aliens?

you must regret not going outside that night? Very Happy



No, I don't regret not looking up that night.Very Happy

We've seen similar lights out where my Grandpa lives.
(west of Phoenix out in the middle of the dessert)
It was all due to military training from Yuma or Luke Air Force Bases. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bitterbuck
No, I don't regret not looking up that night.:grin

i would
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecactus wrote:
bitterbuck1, how do you know they werent aliens?


How do you know they were aliens Cactus, given that the actual evidence for aliens is....zero?.

Which is more likely - Aliens flying over Phoenix or lights from a military exercise?.

Occam's Razor will give you the most likely answer.

DB
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pity about that vid there, that was a good one too.
The user has probobly been bumped off. Laughing

Bitter, They probobly didn't land because they only wanted to reveal themselves for some purpose we have to work out, or perhaps they were communicating with you via a light display and couldn't understand why they were getting no response back. Perhaps even one craft did land at that militalry base top secretly.

I would say it's much more likley to be aliens than some kind of military exersize, infact what type of normal exersize would involve seending loads of strange lights up into the sky? If it were a military exersize or display why wouldn't they take the credit for the it and openly let the public in on the lights and what they were doing.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:

Bitter, They probobly didn't land because they only wanted to reveal themselves for some purpose we have to work out, or perhaps they were communicating with you via a light display and couldn't understand why they were getting no response back. Perhaps even one craft did land at that militalry base top secretly.

I would say it's much more likley to be aliens than some kind of military exersize, infact what type of normal exersize would involve seending loads of strange lights up into the sky? If it were a military exersize or display why wouldn't they take the credit for the it and openly let the public in on the lights and what they were doing.


Perhaps they were just flying around taking photos or perhaps it was a learner driver Laughing At the end of the day we have to ask ourselves what's more likely and aliens in spaceships is way down the list - probably just above Jesus on an air scooter.

How you can say it's more likely to be aliens than a military exercise - I'm baffled. The military use all kinds of aerial lights - from parachute beacons to helicopters. Unless you're a military expert I don't think you can rule out that it was the military and if you read the reports that came out after this incident you'll see that there were military exercises in the area at the time.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These lights don't fit the normal descriptions. If it was just a load of hellicopters people could say "oh look at those military helicopters" or "look at all those flares being fired by those guys" not what the hell are those unexplanable never seen before or even spoke about lights.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
These lights don't fit the normal descriptions. If it was just a load of hellicopters people could say "oh look at those military helicopters" or "look at all those flares being fired by those guys" not what the hell are those unexplanable never seen before or even spoke about lights.


Agentscott , this is not a military exercise on the outskirts of some city like Manchester. If you're not aware of the geography of the area and the specifics of the sighting - where it occurred in relation to the city of Phoenix then your speculations are understandable.

The lights were only 'unexplainable' to those that weren't familiar with the diversity of military/national guard exercises, the equipment used, the nature of the activities involved or the atmospherics and physics of the mountain/ desert area that surrounds Phoenix.

DB
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am familuar with the footage and can't explane what it could be.
I'm ruling out natural phenomina and military exersizes because they do'nt seem to resemble either.
They look and act exactly like what people are calling UFO's and seem to move pulsate and display in just the way I remember with my sighting.

It's a shame about that vid that got pulled, they looked just like the same type of craft.
What will aliens have to do to get noticed here?
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D B Sweeney



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agentscott wrote:
I am familuar with the footage and can't explane what it could be.
I'm ruling out natural phenomina and military exersizes because they do'nt seem to resemble either.
They look and act exactly like what people are calling UFO's and seem to move pulsate and display in just the way I remember with my sighting.

It's a shame about that vid that got pulled, they looked just like the same type of craft.
What will aliens have to do to get noticed here?


How many military exercises in Arizona have you seen first hand?.
How familier are you with military ordnance?.

What will aliens have to do to get noticed here?

Land an give an interview to the BBC/CNN then submit themselves and their technology to scientific scrutiny - simples Wink

DB
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