Orbs? an observation.

Scary bloke · Joined: 17 Jan 2013 Posts: 58 Location: Sheffield

ORBS
Other wise known as Orbic light anomalies, where seen but not documented at a mass level untill the production of
digital mass produced cameras available to the public. It is true to say that one of the early problems manufactures
suffered was the fact that these odd balls of light kept showing up during photographic testing and became a major problem
to the manufactures. So as a consequence the manufacturers had to remove most of the ultraviolet/Infrared frequency with a filter
which was fitted inside the cameras. These can now be removed as a means of producing I.R or U.V based cameras and in fact Full
spectrum cameras. The Sony handycams been well known for this with there ability to switch from Red light to I.R with the click of
a button. The concept of orbs has fascinated people for many years and yes they have turned up on chemical based film images and
can on many occasions be seen by the naked eye.
The question there fore has always been, what are they?
There have been people who say they are aliens or alien cameras watching over us. Spirit balls of energy or even demonic entities.
The concept of angels has also been mentioned. But looking at the proof what is the most likely option?
To be honest it's an even split. Science dismisses them as been dust, refraction, water vapor or mist, frozen fog,
marks on the lens and many other interactions within the environment. but to be honest most of these possibilities can be
removed on closer observation of the environmental factors. Orbs have been observed and documented during interactions and have
appeared to be working as part of real time situations. Moving around people and objects and seeming to produce pre meditated
actions and knowledge based functions. I myself have seen orbic anomalies which have been visibly solid and which have simply disappeared
before my eyes. To me they are much more than a trick of the light or environmental pollution. But it isn't for me to say.
So how do we work out if an anomaly is an orb or environmental pollution?
Not has hard as you would think to be honest.
A scientific model can be put into play which can measure, mass, speed of movement, air movement, drafts, directional change and
in most cases environmental pollution.
If we set up three cameras in an area which is known to produce the phenomena, we can cross reference those cameras and produce
a three directional real time image of that space. We can then note the frame rate F.P.S of the camera and use this as a
speed and distance finder. For example if the light anomaly moves ten feet across a space, we can measure how fast that anomaly
has moved by the amount of frames per second during documentation. In conjunction with this we can incorporate a wind speed monitor which will
give us air speed within the environment. With this information in place we can observe speed of anomaly, speed of the air and the directional
view of the anomaly from three points of reference. This in conjunction with the actual size and shape of anomaly will offer
a great scientific model of the situation in hand. If for example the air is moving slower than the light anomaly (unless
the light anomaly is moving in an air eddy) it will show that the anomaly is not been propelled by that stream of air. An air
eddie or fast swirl movement of air would be seen as a reaction and fluctuation of constant movement by the three cameras.
People have said that many of the orb anomalies are insects, but the fastest insect known on earth is the Southern Giant Darner
dragon fly which can move as fast as sixty miles per hour, that said many of the orbic anomalies have been clocked well over one
hundred miles per hour. Which de bunks that straight away, plus the photographic evidence would show it wasn't a dragon fly.
Many orbic anomalies have been de bunked and these always seem to be shown withing the evidence provided by skeptics. But many
have remained a mystery. It is now taken as a generally excepted medium that psychical energies are using electromagnetic
energy as a means of interaction and manifestation (I could talk for hours on this) so this said, some people are now producing
orb catchers. Using magnetic and electrical equipment as a means of almost sucking in the apparent orb anomalies and reading there electromagnetic
signature. The reason for this is to Gauge the energy value of the anomalies as a means of producing tech equipment which can made made specifically
for orb anomaly documentation and capture. Some have shown promise and some have not. The problem is as soon as interaction is made the
variables are changed. Si it is difficult to isolate readings.
Orbic anomalies have been experienced and talked about for many many years and there history is a wide and fascinating one.
Faces have been reported to be seen in orbs, which is a wonderful concept, but one which can be explained (as long as there
is a person in the room at the time). You see if you consider light is made uo of frequency and that frequency specifies the
color. Then when you take a photograph that light frequency is documented by the camera. This means the light is passed
through the lens. That light can at some point be changes in frequency which can cause light frequency dis figuration. Which in turn
may cause a false documentation of the original light frequency and offer the chance of a false face appearance on the final
documented image. The other possibility is that the moisture (which is seen to be an orb) has globulated sides. This
is caused by the water droplet attempting to hold its shape from inside. It looks a bit like a golf ball close up.
Each one of these water mirrors can reflect an image. If a person is in the room during the documentation of the apparent
light anomaly, there face can be reflected in the water droplet and directed toward the camera (usually during zooming in).
So as you can see from these examples there are many ways to de bunk orbic anomalies, but if you do your home work
and document these fascinating apparent interactions within a scientific based, controlled environment, you have a greater
chance of gaining better and image or video footage. This will make it harder for the skeptics to de bunk your evidence.
One last point is this. When taking photographs of orb anomalies, never use a singular camera. Always take two photographs at the same time
as a means of cross reference and to isolate the light anomaly into a three dimensional space. Dust is shown as an orb when the
flash illuminates it around 4 inch's in front of a directional flash. By using two cameras, you get multi angle, multi flash and
a better idea of where the light anomaly is in real space.

thecactus · Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3197 Location: Northern Ireland

D B Sweeney · Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:45 am Post subject:

Orbs are nothing more than dust, insects and other small fodder and have absolutely nothing to do with the paranormal.

DB

Scary bloke · Joined: 17 Jan 2013 Posts: 58 Location: Sheffield

Can't say your wrong DB but I have done my own tests, applied theory of others and have studied the phenomenon for many years. Are they real? Maybe not. But I didn't include such damning remarks on an unknown phenomenon as you just did.
No one knows the truth DB, which means no one knows it's not real.
Not good progress to discount the un accounted for.

D B Sweeney · Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:27 am Post subject:

Of course, all of these orbs have also rational explanations, which people either don’t bother to learn about or choose to ignore
There are also claims that some orbs have been seen with the naked eye. There is no evidence that these are paranormal either. There are known phenomena to con- sider first, including ball lightning, electric discharge, piezoelectricity, bioluminescent matter, as well as visual misperceptions due from physiological and environmental factors. Before we call something supernatural, we should try to bet- ter understand the natural world first.

DB

Scary bloke · Joined: 17 Jan 2013 Posts: 58 Location: Sheffield

I agree entirely. There can be many many explanations for the orb phenomenon.
But this forum is called "world of ghosts" which is why I guess it has been
inputted here as a psychical interaction. I have seen what I believed to be 2 orb anomalies. Lets remember what that means "ORB" which refers to globular or circular and "anomaly" which is something which occurs somewhere in perspective to other things. (rough description). I am quiet sure that there are orbic interactions or actions occurring, but as to what they are may well be for from paranormal in origin.
I just keep going back to the concept and playing with it as well as applying new information to those situations.
Its the way these things can appear interactive and disappear or appear which makes me interested, a bit like atoms. Only these can be looked at directly and don't rely upon tech equipment to be observed. I can de- bunk them as much as I can back them up. But isn't that the fun of the paranormal. Other wise it would all just be normal!

Snowman81 · Joined: 22 Jan 2013 Posts: 7

Hi, I'm quite interested in this thread as I had heard of orbs in the past and also seen them on the various ghost hunting programmes. I had always been (and still am ) open minded but was slightly more on the side of it being maybe light or speck of dust as I had never seen one that wasn't on TV or in a pic and therefore through a lense.....

However....

The other week my partner and I were doing some work on our new house (an old stone cottage with all sorts of history going back to pre-1800's). My partner was doing some lighting work so we had the mains electric off and I was in one of the bedrooms with my son in his cot and the dog (not in the cot!) generally trying to entertain him in the dark with the torch. We saw a spider so I was following the spider with the torch to show him. It crawled under his cot so I was just trying to see if it came out of the other side (we had alot of time on our hands!) when I saw something small and white move along the floor from the building wall, and travelling directly under the cot...I would say maybe 2pence piece size and white. I was so sure I hadn't imagined it I shone the torch all over under the cot trying to see where it went but couldn't find it again. I think at the time I kind of half thought it was an insect...but then after I thought, what insect moves so quick and definately and is white and round??!! Still not sure what that was but it is the closest to an orb I have experienced in real life...still a bit stumped really as to what it was....

So I'm quite interested to read about orbs now...but like I say, I can't explain it, but am sure I saw it

D B Sweeney · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 6:57 am Post subject:

flossy · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:48 am Post subject:

not always DB
me and my daughter were stood in the kitchen the other day and i saw a black orb going down the side of the fridge, i looked to where it went to see if it were a bug but nothing was there, then my daughter asked what i was looking at, so i told her and she said she saw it too Shocked

i havent a clue what it was?

Scary bloke · Joined: 17 Jan 2013 Posts: 58 Location: Sheffield

Lmao, ace.

Snowman81 · Joined: 22 Jan 2013 Posts: 7

Interesting stuff, if it happens again will try to notice if my son (19months) sees it too. He does keep talking about a baby and pointing to the corner of the room in our new house. When I say where is the baby, he points straight into the same corner every time.....probably another thread that one tho Smile

I suppose the white thing could have been something in my eye. It would have had to have been within the eye or something tho I think because I wear contacts so the even the tiniest speck on my eye is complete agony and I have to take my lense out.

Will post back if I see anything else...going back to the house soon...it is a work in progress so we don't stay there permanently at the mo. I'd be interested to hear about any other possible orbs people have seen and whether you believed in them before or not and whether you now do. I have to say I was sceptical before but heading the other way now. Especially as I have read some background on this that says that actually people hundreds of years ago recognised something like an orb phenomena, and they were called something like 'corpse lights' . Anyone heard this? Is it true that people in the past recorded them?

bye for now Smile

Sharla Tann · Joined: 03 Dec 2011 Posts: 161

project-reveal · Joined: 27 May 2010 Posts: 99 Location: rotherham

You just proved what sort of a person you are.
I have managed to do a lot with my commitment despite my dyslexia and speach problems didn't hold me back. It's people like you who hold me back.

thecactus · Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3197 Location: Northern Ireland

flossy · Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:24 am Post subject:

don't let anyone hold you back lee especially a sharla tann
thin ice comes to mind Wink