Apparent paranormal venues.

Scary bloke · Joined: 17 Jan 2013 Posts: 58 Location: Sheffield

Then you do not understand the concept of what we do. You need to look into the science of the subject more. It's all about frequency.
Come on this is basic paranormal tec.

Sharla Tann · Joined: 03 Dec 2011 Posts: 161

Scary bloke · Joined: 17 Jan 2013 Posts: 58 Location: Sheffield

You are so boring I can't be arsed to enter into discussion with you.

GavKnight · Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 112 Location: Ollerton, Notts

I can see what you're saying cactus but all Ian said was that he went to a few places that are supposed to be haunted, had a bit of a walk around, took a video camera and posted the videos on here for people to have a look at if they're interested. Suddenly it turns into a big debate about what light he should have used with his camera lol.

This forum used to be buzzing with activity but isn't these days because every time someone posts they get others jumping down their throats demanding solid scientific evidence or completely rubbishing peoples experiences with long worded drawn out scientific explainations and that element now dominates this forum to the point where people won't post as often/at all. Which I think is silly considering this is supposed to be a paranormal forum, yet it's dominated by people who don't believe in the paranormal and make the people who do believe in the paranormal feel stupid when they post an experience to the point where people don't post anymore.

I'm probably gonna get some nobel level scientific come back from my post as Ian has hit the nail on the head with the last say etc, long worded, long winded and designed to make the poster look of far superior intellect and me completely stupid,,,, which makes me think which is more stupid, someone who believes that there is/could be such thing as the paranormal posting on a paranormal forum or someone who doesn't believe in the paranormal/has overwhelming evidence that the paranormal doesn't exist posting on a paranormal forum? A different point of view or rational explanation from a sceptic is great and can be exactly what's going on in a location but to band together and rubbish almost every post that is put on this forum is out of order,,,,,,please remember this is a paranormal forum guys Wink

flossy · Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:04 am Post subject:

i do hope your wrong Gav and people are not scared away by the science side of things
i myself do believe in the paranormal,ghosts ect and do believe that not everything can be explained away by science

also i beleive it doesnt really matter what source of light you use if a spirit wants to show its self then it will Wink

thecactus · Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3197 Location: Northern Ireland

lol Gav that's the longest post I think I have ever seen from you Laughing

You do make a good point about people attacking others experiences and belittling them etc... I am no scientist and I generally don't go into that side of things, and I also don't agree with scientific investigation of the paranormal, as I see it as a form of underestimating the source of the paranormal occurrence (underestimating the being/spirit/ghost) I think of it as the equivalent of say, monkeys investigating humans.

Also my signature may be misleading - I actually do believe in life after death and ghosts, but I just don't take everything I hear at face value.

D B Sweeney · Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:06 am Post subject:

thecactus · Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3197 Location: Northern Ireland

Scary bloke · Joined: 17 Jan 2013 Posts: 58 Location: Sheffield

The reason I use technical equipment is first of all to attempt to document interactions as to build up a personal database. Another is to show those interactions to other interested persons. I do not have enough money to buy the amount of equipment which would be needed to produce provable evidence. I would love to sit inside my own personal belief, but that would prove nothing. (not that I want to prove anything?) But people expect proof of everything. So I do what I do and use the knowledge I have gained as a means of attempting to interact that apparent evidence to others who may be able to use it. But what does bore me is people who stand in the side lines denying everything which is offered at what ever level. These people poke and pick fault (which is fine), but it is not progressive or pro active. I know there are faults with many of the theories used in metaphysics, but the same applies with main stream science. After all we are using main steam scientific models as a means of inquiry (in most cases). It is good to have skeptical opinions,but negative damning ridicule is not the way to go.

GavKnight · Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 112 Location: Ollerton, Notts

I don't think I explained myself right, I do agree with scientific investigation but I just think people are using alot of scientific terminology and long drawn out words when having a disscusion/argument with someone else to make themselves look far, far more intellectually superior ( check my terminology out lol) and the other person look like some jibbering fool. I don't know anyone who holds a conversation (face to face) with somebody and speaks like that (if i did i'd probably slap them lol). It's not big, it's not clever and it's un called for that's all. I've just seen the last line of Ians post and i totally agree,,,,,,,,It is good to have skeptical opinions,but negative damning ridicule is not the way to go.

Scary bloke · Joined: 17 Jan 2013 Posts: 58 Location: Sheffield

Sorry if I have appeared to use a lot of in-depth and confusing language in the past. It seems to be a necessity in most cases as many people who are highly educated tent to look down of people who use what I call basic written language. I would prefer to talk in a more basic fashion, but I don't like it when people assume I am unintelligent. Also some situations require in-depth explanations as to ensure all the information is there.
I shall attempt to write in a more acceptable manner. No insult was meant.

thecactus · Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3197 Location: Northern Ireland

GavKnight, I hear you man, a bunch of average people on a paranormal forum all trying to sound like Einstein while arguing with each other. Some posts on here could be confused with the opening of a PhD dissertation Wink

flossy · Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:20 am Post subject:

well i aint one of them... Shocked

i mean, i am not one of those Smile

lol

GavKnight · Joined: 23 Jun 2009 Posts: 112 Location: Ollerton, Notts

lmao flossy, it's not what I mean Ian, the long drawn out scientific stuff always seems to come out when there is a heated discussion/argument, kind of like a 1 up manship so to speak(almost like an I know more long words than you competition lol). I've seen quite a few of your posts Ian and understand what your saying fine,,,,,,,,,,,Cactus has hit the nail on the head.
All I'm saying is that this kind of thing has gone on too long and I for 1 am getting a bit fed up with the bickering TBH
We've had some really strange things happen in our house lately and it's got to the point where I don't want to post what's gone on because I don't appreciate someone trying to make out I'm a lier or some kind of idiot and then arguing that I have no solid evidence to back up my claims etc (I don't need the hassle)

flossy · Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:59 am Post subject:

im sorry to hear that it has put you off from posting about what your going through Sad

i grew up in a haunted house so i know how it can get sometimes
personal experience is the best proof of all in my eyes Wink

you'll always get the bickering on forums between skeptics and believers