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thecactus
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Do you understand coincidence and chance Cactus?.
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yes in my experience there is no such thing as coincidence
and yes there is a chance they were bits of debris made to look like intelligently controlled pulsating UFOs materialising around the tether 
but if i had to make an educated guess between these two possibilities Id say they were UFOs |
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D B Sweeney
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yes in my experience there is no such thing as coincidence
Very odd
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thecactus
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Live your life with an appreciation of coincidences and you connect with the field of infinate possibilities.
Deepak Chopra |
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D B Sweeney
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| thecactus wrote: | Live your life with an appreciation of coincidences and you connect with the field of infinate possibilities.
Deepak Chopra |
So you don't believe in infinate possibilities Cactus?.
IMO Chopra is a fool who spouts new age rubbish passing it off as some kind of science when it's not.
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thecactus
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yes in my experience there is no such thing as coincidence
and yes there is a chance they were bits of debris made to look like intelligently controlled pulsating UFOs materialising around the tether
but if i had to make an educated guess between these two possibilities Id say they were UFOs
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I go with the most logical possibility and in this rare case UFOs is more logical than debris transformed into looking like UFOs |
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D B Sweeney
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Occam's Razor Cactus?.
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thecactus
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:52 am Post subject: |
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| not the same because i am not making new assumptions - these craft have been spotted for the last 60 years, and possibly for thousands |
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D B Sweeney
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| thecactus wrote: | | not the same because i am not making new assumptions - these craft have been spotted for the last 60 years, and possibly for thousands |
And in all that time we've not had proof of a single alien or a single saucer - what does that suggest?.
A. People are making various errors of perception ie mistaking aircraft/stars etc for UFO's, have faulty memories are subject to pranks. Are subject to delusions such as fantasy prone personalities, various mental problems, are affected by drugs and alcohol. Want to believe so much that they see UFO's and spacecraft everywhere they look. Fake sightings, photos and YouTube videos.
B. Aliens have been visiting Earth for thousands of years but so far we've not one atom of real evidence.
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thecactus
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you keep mentioning proof - did you watch the disclosure project - if it is true - you will not find 'proof' apart from what you see with your own eyes, which you even claim you did
if it is real, the governments of the world are suppressing the information - some claim releasing peices gradually to test the waters etc...
look at this which the MOD decided not to release for 14 years, which makes you wonder:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/8205163.stm |
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D B Sweeney
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:38 am Post subject: |
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if it is real
Only four words but four words that form the crux of your arguments with the crucial word being 'if'.
Consider this - 'if' the bible is true and there is a god and a heaven and a hell - hypothetically speaking, you're going to hell and so am I.
Fortunately the evidence or 'proof' for god, heaven, hell and the veracity of the bible is very small as to not be worth worrying about.
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thecactus
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crux of your arguments
Only four words but four words that sum you up with the crucial word being 'argument'.
I dont argue, i debate and discuss - you argue |
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D B Sweeney
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look at this which the MOD decided not to release for 14 years, which makes you wonder:
Before the UK's Freedom of Information Act came fully into force in 2005, the Public Records Acts set down the rules on access to government files. The best-known feature of these acts was the so-called 30 Year Rule, which did pretty much what it said on the tin and meant that most files wouldn't be opened until 30 years after the most recent document. Some more sensitive files were withheld for longer, while some would never be released. The 'default position', as it were, was not to release. It was a totally different culture, and when I joined the MoD in 1985, it was a closed organization with limited public and media interface. The Department I left in 2006, after a 21 year career, was virtually unrecognizable from the organization I'd joined over two decades ago.
NICK POPE
Standard military procedure on disclosure that was amended due to changes relating to the Freedom of Information act. It covers lots of sensitive military and government information but it just so happens UFO's form a small part of it. It has absolutely nothing to do with Government keeping alien contact a secret because it's true and 'they' don't want the public to know 'the truth'.
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thecactus
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i know all that but two kids reporting an alien with a mellon head trying to abduct them into a spaceship - they wouldnt release 'that' information?
maybe it was the numerous reports in the same area at the same time of a UFO that would have backed them up? |
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D B Sweeney
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| thecactus wrote: | i know all that but two kids reporting an alien with a mellon head trying to abduct them into a spaceship - they wouldnt release 'that' information?
maybe it was the numerous reports in the same area at the same time of a UFO that would have backed them up? |
So, children have never been known to have overactive imaginations or to make up stories?.
And people don't suffer from bandwagon jumping and contagion?.
http://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifestyle/your-brain-is-not-your-friend.html
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thecactus
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So, children have never been known to have overactive imaginations or to make up stories?.
And people don't suffer from bandwagon jumping and contagion?.
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i think you missed my point - this was the Ministry of Defence deciding not to release these documents containing stories of 'childrens overactive imaginations'
what im saying is - not releasing 'THESE' documents |
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