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flossy Moderator
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:41 am Post subject: help us |
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has anyone seen this? aparently NASA received an SOS call from another galaxy saying "help us"
http://www.file22.com/news/?p=1216
what do you make of it? |
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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:19 am Post subject: |
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It was published in The Weekly World News: lol: - that should be enough to tell you the story is highly dubious.
The Weekly World News was a supermarket tabloid published in the United States from 1979 to 2007, renowned for its outlandish cover stories often based on supernatural or paranormal themes and an approach to news that verged on the satirical.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_World_News
The closest we've come to a signal that may or may not have been from an alien race was the Wow signal in August 1977.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1122413.stm
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thecactus
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Some more info:
NASA Picks Up Distress Signal From Doomed Planet
Original Article Found within the UK Ministry of Defence UFO Files
Recently the UK Ministry of Defence released to the National Archives the 7th batch of UFO Files.
Interestingly, One of those files features an article Published in the Weekly World News, (September 15, 1998 Vol 19 No. 51) with story about how NASA detected and decoded a mathematics based distress Signal from a doomed Planet outside our own Galaxy.
The signal was detected in January of 1998 however took many months to decode the message.
For your convenience the article has been transcribed:
NASA experts claim to have intercepted an intergalactic distress call from an alien civilization that had already peaked and was actually dying when saber-tooth tigers still roamed the earth!
The 80,000-year-old SOS was received and tape recorded in late January (1998).
But only in recent weeks have radio astronomers and lanuage experts found the key to the complex mathematics-based language that enabled them to translate the frantic plea for help.
The world press has been suspiciously silent about the startling message, though lengthy scientific reports are scheduled for publication in two professional journals, Radio Astronomy and Universe.
According to a highly placed NASA source in houston, noted Russian space scientist Victor Kulakov is leading a United Nations research team from a state-operated observatory 50 miles northwest of Moscow.
Dr. Kulakov told Universe that the signal emanated from a point beyond the galaxy nearest to our own – Andromeda – and was sent by beings that had apparently achieved a civilization no more advanced than our own here on Earth.
“The simple fact that we received and decoded the message proves beyond any doubt that their knowledge and technology were, at the very best, within our reach.” Dr Kulakov explained.
“And while there are years of study ahead of us, I can say with certainty that the death of their civilization was not the result of some cosmic catastrophe. It was the result of the civilization turning on itself, possibly with devastating nuclear weaponry.”
Dr Kulakov flatly refused to provide either of the magazines with a transcript of the message, but he did say it began with the plea, “Help us,” and went on to give data pinpointing the exact position of the doomed planet.
There was a quite lucid account of apocalyptic devastation, hellish explosions, widespread death and terminal illnesses,” he said.
“A Shower of meteors? Perhaps. But what stikes me, and this is just a feeling, is an underlying acceptance of guilt. It’s as if the senders of the message are acknowledging blame for what happened.”
Whatever it was, they apparently had no means to evacuate the remaining population. Interplanetary space travel was available to them, but only on a very limited level. The message makes it very clear that they were trapped on their world,” said Dr. Kulakov.
Its very interesting. |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Dr Kulakov flatly refused to provide either of the magazines with a transcript of the message, but he did say it began with the plea, “Help us,” and went on to give data pinpointing the exact position of the doomed planet.
There's your smoking gun
Also - what a coincidence that this doomed civilisation - 80,000 light years away just happened to speak English
There's also no official acknowledgement of a Viktor Kulakov apart from links to this story. But most damning of all is the fact that the Andromeda Galaxy is approximately 2.5 million light years away - so how the hell has this message only taken 80,000 years to reach us?. Bad hoaxing, bad, bad, hoaxing
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thecactus
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Also - what a coincidence that this doomed civilisation - 80,000 light years away just happened to speak English
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they didnt - it was a mathematical code, which apparently took months to decipher - or so this says
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There's also no official acknowledgement of a Viktor Kulakov apart from links to this story. But most damning of all is the fact that the Andromeda Galaxy is approximately 2.5 million light years away - so how the hell has this message only taken 80,000 years to reach us?. Bad hoaxing, bad, bad, hoaxing
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possibly
but it was kept by the MOD for some reason |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:41 am Post subject: |
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or so this says
but it was kept by the MOD for some reason
How do you know for certain?. Do you not think that if this story was really true it would have been on the front page of every newspaper in the world and not in some comic tabloid well known for spoof stories?.
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thecactus
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:04 am Post subject: |
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D B Sweeney, but it was kept by the MOD for some reason
How do you know for certain?.
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Ive checked the National Archives - the 7th batch of UFO Files is not online yet |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:08 am Post subject: |
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but it was kept by the MOD for some reason
So we don't know if it's true then.
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Agentscott
Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 1042 Location: Essex
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:11 am Post subject: |
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An exellent find Flossy.
I just spotted this post, funny because I was only reading about it the other day, UFO case book.
I cant get in to the site now to remind myself a little but it sounds quite real, the signal came from the andromader galaxy so to far away for us to worry about. If there are ET's with intersteller travel(as I beleieve) out there lets hope they helped.
ETs have visited our missile silos and dissarmed our warheads, it's been in papers and credible witnesses testify to it.... so I beleive that perhaps ET's left that message on purpose intended for us as a deterent to disscourage use of our nuclea arms. Most probobly there is no doomed race, the ET's just dont want us using nukes on ourselves.
If anything the message is quite relevent. |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:13 am Post subject: |
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but it sounds quite real
Apart from the glaring errors Agentscott
'But most damning of all is the fact that the Andromeda Galaxy is approximately 2.5 million light years away - so how the hell has this message only taken 80,000 years to reach us?. Bad hoaxing, bad, bad, hoaxing '
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Agentscott
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Thats if it were a conventional radio wave.
I'm not saying all UFO stuff is real, it was only an idea of mine because I know they have an interest in our nuclea capabilities.
There is so much diss imformation out there and it's been set there exactly for the purpose of cloaking the real stuff and making it all unbeleivable.
Suprise suprise that was poped in the disclossed files and the media got hold of that story.
They deliberatly print the rubbish. |
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thecactus
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:43 am Post subject: |
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but it was kept by the MOD for some reason
So we don't know if it's true then.
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:48 am Post subject: |
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Agentscott wrote: | Thats if it were a conventional radio wave.
I'm not saying all UFO stuff is real, it was only an idea of mine because I know they have an interest in our nuclea capabilities.
There is so much diss imformation out there and it's been set there exactly for the purpose of cloaking the real stuff and making it all unbeleivable.
Suprise suprise that was poped in the disclossed files and the media got hold of that story.
They deliberatly print the rubbish. |
Then how do you evaluate what's real and what's disinformation?.
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Agentscott
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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From what ive'e seen its usually the stuff that has a huge fault with it, like say the 800,000 mile wave traveling from much futher out.
The mainstream stuff is always easilly debunkable to a pro debunker and has obvious faults.
Like the Jerusulem number 3, an obvious hash up.
Genuine stuff get almost no attention other then rude comments ect.
Also my seeing stuff does help because I know what to look for because I have seen it 1st hand. |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:03 am Post subject: |
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But how do you decide if somethings genuine? - for example a YouTube film of a ufo when
you know nothing of the person who filmed it ie: they could be a compulsive liar and hoaxer and you have no other information other than the YouTube footage in order to formulate a valid conclusion.
You must see how many semi-professional YouTube scam artists there are posting ghost & Ufo/alien footage on there. Without serious independent corroboration and professional scientific analysis these videos/pictures/anecdotes will be nothing more than interesting or amusing stories.
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