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Socrates
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:32 am Post subject: My other half - Event One |
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Preamble.
I should like to state that this is something that happened to my wife, and that it is NOT therefore the ubiquitous scenario of a friend of a friend.
The details have been gathered over a period of some ten years, and when compared to the notes I have been keeping, show coherence and an absence of adding or changing details. Her family have also remained consistent in their recollections.
Background.
The family is very down-to-earth, having been born and bred in a small market town. There have been no divorces or separations.
In 1971 my wife's family bought a larger house in the same town, as their current abode was not large enough. My wife was 7, her younger brother 5. The "new" house was in need of renovation and some months passed before the family moved.
The very first time my wife was taken to the new house she had been somewhere between neutral and positive about moving. However, upon arrival she was deeply disturbed. She felt an extreme aversion to it.
After coaxing / dragging her inside, her parents told her to go upstairs to inspect what would be her bedroom. She entered it (alone) and the strong aversion became unbearable. She shouted down to her parents that she couldn't have this room as it was full of rolled up linoleum.
She went back downstairs to get her parents to have a look at the room, and upon re-entering it, the rolls of linoleum had gone without a trace.
Moving In.
Upon actually taking up residence, things happened from the first night. My wife was in bed and shortly afterwards, a man walked into her room. She, quite naturally for a seven-year-old, bolted downstairs screaming. Her mother (dad was working late shifts) could not see anyone or anything that could account for this scene.
Typical Pattern.
After her mother refused to keep coming up, the following pattern became standard.
My wife would go to bed, but was too scared to lie down to sleep. Instead she would sit up in bed, waiting for the man to come in. He would eventually arrive, and walk over to the bedroom window, and appear to stare out of it for some time. He would then walk to the foot of her bed, and then appear to stare at her for some time. I use the word "appear" as she was too scared to look at his face. He would then grasp the foot of the bedsheets and forcibly yank them off. Over time, this evolved into a tug of war between my wife and the man.
This pattern occurred every night she was in the house until she was 11. Her sleep was only possible when she was exhausted, and even then after the tug of war had ended and the man left. Sometimes he would come back later in the night and wake her up again.
Coping Strategies.
My wife managed to persuade her parents into having her bedroom door left open - it was eventually removed entirely at her behest. Similarly, the landing light was left on all night.
She would listen to Radio Luxemburg through the night through one of those mono-aural single earpieces of yesteryear. She felt she had a connection with humanity by doing this.
Deviations / Extra Events
On one night, her brother told her he had seen her bedclothes moving backwards and forwards, and that she was fighting over them with someone in her room.
On the last night this happened, she said the man was in there as usual, but then a white figure (she thinks it was a woman) walked into her room, towards the man, and the man then moved out through the window, followed by the woman. She said she did not know how, but she knew with utmost elation that the man would not come back.
The House.
The house had been previously occupied. To the best of my current research and knowledge, no violent acts had occurred in it.
The road kind of reminds me of a tag line for a sordid conspiracy theory in an odd way... the entire populace was elderly people (some married, some widowed and some always single) who had never had children and who all went to the same church.
Only one of these people had been welcoming to the family; the rest ostracised them, and some professed a dislike of children.
Last Words.
It breaks my heart. A 7 to 11 year-old girl subjected to this torture every night she stayed in this house. Well, until the whitish female figure appeared. My wife spent much time in school crying through exhaustion and fear. Nobody believed her. She was utterly alone and powerless. To this day she cannot relax and the slightest noise in our own house causes her varying degrees of fear.
The second event was far worse, albeit shorter, and took place when she was an adult, in the same house. I shall post it later, provided I haven't blown up the server with my incessant and grandiloquent verbiage, nor inundated people's patiences therewith.
Thank you in advance for any thoughts and ideas. |
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flossy Moderator
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 4922 Location: UK tyne/wear (geordie land)
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:03 am Post subject: |
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that would of been pretty scary to see as a child
can i ask...
through time did she ever try and comunicate with it?
did anyone else ever sleep in the room to see if they saw the same thing?
did anyone else see anything in the house? |
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Socrates
Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Hi, Flossy.
Nobody else slept in this room and apart from her brother, nobody else saw anything. My wife has told me that her brother said he kept seeing a lady standing on the landing, and that this scared him to the extent that he was too scared to go to the toilet and ended up wetting his bed.
My wife was far too scared to attempt to talk to the man. She has said that she somehow knew that this would give him more power over her. Having said that, she felt that he was called John... an extremely common name, I fully recognise. However, it was not until very recently that we were able to find out that the previous occupants had been a couple who hated children, and that the husband was called John.
When I get round to describing the second event, the whole family, including uncles and cousins, as well as police officers and a vicar all witnessed other very bizarre events. I shan't jump the gun on this one, other than to say it happened in 1981, and involved banging, doors slamming / refusing to open, temperature changes, electrical failure, objects disappearing (and sometimes reappearing elsewhere), lights going on and off, curtains being drawn, objects flying through the air, fires breaking out and various other currently unexplained events. |
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Agentscott
Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 1042 Location: Essex
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Hi Socrates,
Very interesting experiences here...as a real UFO witness theres not much advice I have for you/her other than if it's still going on then get a camera set up and help prove the paranormal. I have had something that I can't decide is ufo's or ghosts...a mystery light that flashes very oddly in various places around the house, not seen it for a while though.
This sounds like a real genuine haunting to me.
Anything more recent?
I suppose your wife is looking more to forget than investigate. I hope she got over it all OK.
Looking forward to the 80's incedent. |
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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Very interesting post Socrates, thanks for sharing it
I'll post my thoughts and ideas shortly.
DB |
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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:48 am Post subject: |
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You say your wife was 7 in 1971 and you've been keeping notes for ten years. Do the notes cover the last ten years consecutively or are the notes the amalgamation of ten years worth spread over a longer period of time?.
You say your wife was 'deeply disturbed' about moving - am I right in presuming this was when she was 7 and...(quick calculation) now she's 47?, therefore there's a 40/37 year gap here?.
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Socrates
Joined: 25 May 2011 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Hi, DB
My wife was neutral to positive about the move which took place when she was seven, and she is indeed 47 now. It was only upon her initial arrival at the new house that her dread began.
I met her a little over ten years ago, and my notes are an amalgamation of conversations I have had with her, her family and other people who were privy to these events. However, the other witnesses are mainly associated with the second event I have indicated I shall describe in the future.
My notes have merely enabled me to record the accounts given, and after significant gaps of well over a year, I noticed no deviation or addition. In my usual work I am accustomed to interviewing people in a fact-finding capacity, and avoid leading questions and focus on identifying possible anomalies. I am comfortable with the consistency of the accounts I have been given. Oh, and I hasten to add I have not deliberately proceeded in this manner. I trust her... Well, it would be a pretty rotten state of affairs if I didn't! No, the gaps were serendipitous. |
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Carebear
Joined: 24 Apr 2011 Posts: 55 Location: Bonnie Scotland
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Socrates
That sounds as though your wife had a truly traumatising time in her childhood home. Do you still have family members staying in the house?
Very interested to hear of your wive's other experience. |
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D B Sweeney
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 2842 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Socrates
Funnily enough I'm only a year older than your wife and I 'saw' a ghost when I was around the same age but in different circumstances. I can relate the story now but I know that it will bear very little resemblance to what actually happened nearly 40 years ago due to the constructive nature of the human memory.
Here's a link if you want to understand a bit more about it.
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/362/1481/773.full
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flossy Moderator
Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 4922 Location: UK tyne/wear (geordie land)
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:41 am Post subject: |
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do you not think it would be a bit hard to forget details that happens to you every night for 4yr
pretty scary stuff! |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:59 am Post subject: |
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flossy wrote: | do you not think it would be a bit hard to forget details that happens to you every night for 4yr
pretty scary stuff! |
We're looking at this from an adults perspective. The person I was when I was 7 and the person I am now could be two totally different people. The way we perceive the world at that age and beyond is not governed by the understanding we have as we progress into our teens and become fully functioning adults.
With respect to Socrates and Mrs Socrates, we're talking about events that happened decades ago. It would be highly unlikely that these events have not been diluted, reconstructed, added to and affected by the intervening years.
In order to fully understand the fallibility of the human mind and memory I'd ideally recommend some articles and books on the subject and I'd be more than happy to post links to them.
I'm not saying these events didn't happen - my own ghostly encounter did really happen to me - I'm suggesting that from what we know about the human mind, perception and memory (and we know an awful lot) the events as recalled now and in the notes taken over the ten year period may be different to the actual events of 4 decades ago.
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flossy Moderator
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:23 am Post subject: |
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i understand what your saying DB, it just seems to be the kind of experience your not likely to forget the details of so easily, seen as the same thing happened to her every night for 4yr
but you are right the brain does work in mysterious ways |
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thecactus
Joined: 07 Mar 2011 Posts: 3196 Location: Northern Ireland
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:27 am Post subject: |
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flossy wrote: | do you not think it would be a bit hard to forget details that happens to you every night for 4yr
pretty scary stuff! |
I agree.
Socrates, have you ever tried to get a picture of the John that lived in the house previously, and do you know what end he took? Did your wife ever look at his face? |
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D B Sweeney
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:12 am Post subject: |
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thecactus wrote: | flossy wrote: | do you not think it would be a bit hard to forget details that happens to you every night for 4yr
pretty scary stuff! |
I agree.
Socrates, have you ever tried to get a picture of the John that lived in the house previously, and do you know what end he took? Did your wife ever look at his face? |
Can anyone remember any significant event in detail from when they were 7?.
Unless you're now only 8 of course
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thecactus
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:19 am Post subject: |
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But it's the fact that it occurred every single night continuously for 4 years; that's a very different story IMO. |
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