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Agentscott
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 Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:50 pm Post subject: Triangle UFO moves over the moon |
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Hi there all,
Here is some intriging footage captured in January this year by an amuter astronomer showing some exelent footage of a UFO moving over the moon. I beleive its these types of capture that proves something is going on.
To me this looks a TR3B style UFO, TR3B's are black triangular UFO's with a cental power source and glowing light at each corner of the triangle when veiwed at night. These are commonly reported thesedays and some people are arguing that they are top secret aircraft of earthly origins.
If so where did the secret holders get that tech from, hmmm ET's perhaps? Personly I think they are of unearthly origins.
Here it is..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz_aRFtGbeQ&feature=player_embedded |
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D B Sweeney
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:31 am Post subject: |
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Or, using Occam's Razor* we could quite confidently say it's a simple hoax.
DB
*one should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything |
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flossy
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:50 am Post subject: |
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whatever it is it looks pretty close to the moon as you can see a shadow from it  |
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D B Sweeney
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:04 am Post subject: |
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Flossy, footage like that could be quite easily faked in about 15 minutes by someone with the most rudimentary image manipulation software. I'm actually gobsmacked that anyone's falling for it when it's not substantiated in any way and is very simply another case of the 'if it's on YouTube it must be true' mentality.
In the words of Mark Twain: 'You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus'.
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flossy
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:15 am Post subject: |
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i dont trust anything that comes from youtube nowadays, it is a shame though, whats the point in all this faking just for a few hits  its sad lol |
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D B Sweeney
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| flossy wrote: | | i dont trust anything that comes from youtube nowadays, it is a shame though, whats the point in all this faking just for a few hits its sad lol |
I think there's numerous reasons why people feel the need to fake stuff. As a race we've been doing it ever since the first shamans put on an animal head in order to fool others into believing they could commune with the spirits. It really took off with William Mumler and his accidental discovery of the process that spawned spirit photography. As technology has progressed so has the sophistication with which certain idiots can fake paranormal footage and pass it off as the real thing.
Now, I'm not saying that footage like the one we're talking about is absolutely faked but it doesn't take much to weigh up the circumstances of where it's been posted, the fact that no major news organisation has even bothered with it or that is has zero in terms of supporting testimonies from anyone half credible.
But all it takes is one individual who wants his or her 15 minutes of fame to post it onto YouTube and thousands of people will see it as further confirmation of all kinds of beliefs from government technology cover ups to aliens having bases on the moon.
Sad, very very sad.
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thecactus
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:11 am Post subject: |
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I really dont know if this is real or not - its impossible to tell - if I caught this on camera, I would know its real and would know the truth - but the first thing I would do is get the footage analyzed by a reputable professional - like DB said get some credibilty then stick it on youtube, or go to the news.  |
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Agentscott
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:49 am Post subject: |
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Hi there all,
DB I think that you should have a little more faith in people. Not everybody is out to fool you. Are you are saying that everything on the web is fake on and there is no real fotage, thats quite a claim to make..
Thats how there is no evidence thesedays,. it's denyed. Mainstraeam will just say "thats fake" and as I said before Youtube is a convenient way to get vids up for people to see so why must all on it be a untrue. Mainstram would never cover this type of story, they would ignor and deny it or if it got to popular then ridicule it. Forget the news Cactus.
The maker did what I would have done, Catus would have done and pretty much most other peole in the world would have done, put amazing fotage on youtube.
One other thing, there are many reports of triangle sightings being reported worldwide. Aliens and UFO's are real. |
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thecactus
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Agentscott, I believe they probably are real and probably have visited us, but nowhere near the level you believe.
So I am somewhere in between you and DB.
Why wouldnt you go to an expert and get this footage analyzed? Then display it with credible people to support its authenticity.
If the Government Secrecy conspiracy is true, it would be easy to fool the masses. The Government probably does control the mass media and that is the most powerful tool on the planet today. |
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D B Sweeney
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:39 am Post subject: |
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I think that you should have a little more faith in people.
I have faith in the people I know (to a certain degree) personally and science, not anecdotes on web forums or YouTube videos.
Are you are saying that everything on the web is fake on and there is no real fotage, thats quite a claim to make..
NO, not by any means. But YouTube videos need to be taken with a pinch of salt.
How does science validate hypotheses and theories - by YouTube?. No of course not, that would be stupid wouldn't it?.
Want to prove that Aliens live n the Moon?- just post a video on YouTube and it's instantly true!.
Both you and Cactus really need to look beyond YouTube, you really do.
When my interest started in this whole UFO/Ghosts?Paranormal subject there was no internet, no computers - just books and the odd TV programme (Horizon, World about us or Man Alive) so I had to work hard and read much - books and books and books in order to find out the information that may give me the the truth (or not).
On UFO's alone I read everything by Von Daniken, Vallee, Le Poer Trench, Hynek, Keel, Tim Good and many more obscure authors - I'm talking about hundreds of books here.
Like you guys I was a believer in my early teens through to my late twenties then I decided that there are indeed two sides to every story and decided to balance all that I'd read that supported a belief in the paranormal with the sceptical point of view - from ghosts to UFO's I read the alternative explanations.
After over 35 years I'm still learning and reading.
That's where I come from with my opinions.
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Agentscott
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Appreciated Cactus but there are only two options you beleive or you don't, you cant half beleive.
The scene is only denyed for two reasons... the person has not reasearched it properly and I don't beleive thats DB's catergory, once you have you will see that things strongly point to a major cover up, or the person is just doing his job. |
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thecactus
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:56 am Post subject: |
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D B Sweeney, you will look like a tit if the British +/or US Government discloses that there have been visitations from extraterrestrials and the UFO phenomenon is real etc... but for reasons of National Security it was decided the information would be classified.
you would look like a tit DB, wouldnt you DB?  |
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D B Sweeney
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:49 am Post subject: |
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you cant half beleive.
Of course you can - it's called being open minded.
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D B Sweeney
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:50 am Post subject: |
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if the British +/or US Government discloses that there have been visitations from extraterrestrials and the UFO phenomenon is real etc
Big 'if' Cactus
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thecactus
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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not really once you start to pile the reports on top of each other with the testimonies from the most credible at the top, the if shrinks
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